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ignoring magic resistance?

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by uglijimus, Apr 28, 2006.

  1. uglijimus Gems: 6/31
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    [​IMG] Hi, is there a list of the spells that ignore magic resistance AND saving throws? if not, ones that ignore magic resistance would be just nice. thanks
     
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    Sunfire
    Sunray
    Meteor Swarm (I am not sure)
    Fire Storm
    Dispel/Remove Magic
    Lower Resistance
    Dragon's Breath
    Modded Comet
    Storm of Vengeance (I am not sure)

    Hmm are there any more?
     
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    Mage spells :

    1) Teleport Field
    2) Sunfire (when casted by enemies sometimes it doesn't)
    3) Lower Resistance
    4) Dragon's Breath
    5) Imprisonment
    6) Strength (can be used offensively)

    + All the Protection Removal spells (Remove Magic,Breach,etc...)


    Cleric spells :

    1) Bolt of Glory
    2) Firestorm
    3) Implosion
    4) Earthquake
    5) Sunray
    6) False Dawn
    7) Magic Resistance (when casted on a non-hostile creature)
    8) Fire Seeds
    9) Sol's Searing Orb
    10) Slay Living (not sure about this one)
    11) Dispel Magic


    As for the spells that don't allow a saving throw,you can look in their description for them.
     
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    IIRC, Chromatic Orb also ignores MR.
     
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    Yes thetruth's list is perfect, those spells ignore MR AFAIK. :thumb:

    IIRC, chromatic orb was buggy and was patched. It should not bypass MR.
     
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    Blindness
    Deafness
    Glitterdust
    Contagion
     
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    Glitterdust's reveal invisibility effect ignores MR and saving throw, but its blindness does not IIRC.

    I am not sure about deafness, blindness, and contagion, never tried them. Are you sure?
     
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    Tal Rasha is right for Deafness and Contagion they ignore MR.Especially Contagion can be very useful in the fights against dragons.

    But I ám quite sure that blindness does not ignore MR.
    As for Glitterdust,like most non offensive spells, it ignores MR.
     
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    This might be a bit off-topic, but if i remember correctly, couldn't you cast the spell Raise resistance on certain enemies with absurd high resistances (fierkraag is one, and kangaxx too i think) wich would actually cause their magic resistance to drop down dramatically ?
     
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    A patch probably fixed that, because its an abuse of the engine... making someone with 100 resistance go higher, have it rotate back to 1, or something like that.
     
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    Thrasher91604 For those who know ...

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    This is a great topic!

    How about Greater Malison?
     
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    thanks guys, you helped out a lot! i beat the game because of your lists!!
     
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    I don't think GM ignores MR.
     
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    Shame. i remember using this on firkraag, he died pretty fast with a few well placed spells.. i might go back there and see if it still works, as BG2 still sits on my HDD with the latest patch and ToB installed :)
     
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    Actually the spell Magic Resistance (5 level Cleric spell) still works fine.It sets the MR of the target at 40%, so if an enemy has higher MR than that, it will lower it to 40%.And I was wrong it can be casted on enemies too ;)


    Other spells that ignore MR :

    - Energy Drain (9 level)
    - Globe of Blades and Blade Barrier
    - Aura of Flaming Death
    - Fireshields Red,Blue


    Also I tested some spells and I found out that Fire Seeds and Sunray (when casted on a non-undead enemy) get blocked by MR.

    So a more complete list is this one:


    Mage spells :

    1) Deafness (level 2)
    2) Strength (level 2, can be used offensively)
    3) Contagion (level 4)
    4) Fireshields Red/Blue (level 4)
    5) Teleport Field (level 4)
    6) Lower Resistance (level 5)
    7) Sunfire (level 5, when casted by enemies sometimes it doesn't ignore MR)
    8) Energy Drain (level 9)
    9) Imprisonment (level 9)
    10) Dragon's Breath (HLA)

    + All the Protection Removal spells (Remove Magic,Breach,etc...)

    + Almost all the non-offensive spells (white,blue coloured spells) ignore MR.


    Priest spells :

    1) Dispel Magic (level 3)
    2) Magic Resistance (level 5)
    3) Slay Living (level 5)
    4) Blade Barrier (level 6)
    5) Bolt of Glory (level 6)
    6) False Dawn (level 6)
    7) Sol's Searing Orb (level 6)
    8) Earthquake (level 7)
    9) Firestorm (level 7)
    10) Sunray (level 7,only when casted on undeads)
    11) Aura of Flaming Death (HLA)
    12) Globe of Blades (HLA)
    13) Implosion (HLA)
     
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