Indifferent ending?

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Hi,

I was searching Napster for some Torment music.
I was surprised to find three files : Ending:Good, Ending:Bad and Ending:Indifferent.

Now, I assume the good ending is the finally-dying-now-in-purgatory scenario, and the bad ending is the losing-all-links-to-mortality-and-getting-killed-by-transcendant-one scenario, but I wasn't sure what the indifferent ending was, If anyone has any information about that it would much appreciated.

 

There is one other possible ending ofcourse. You can kill yourself with the blade from Coaxmetal (or get yousrself kiled). This will not lead you to the Blood War, but there is a nice animation and even some different music.
You should atleast have tried it once.

 

Well, what I've got so far is the "Winning the Game" animation where I die and go fight the blood war, the "Losing the Game" animation and music where I'm kneeling there seeing the ghost and have the blade of torment smash up. But as I understand it there is one more animation and music for when you don't quite lose the game, but you don't win it either but the game ends - hence, the 'Indifferent' music napster gave me.

I read somewhere ages ago that you could get this by becoming the next silent king and one other that I've forgotten, but I'm not going to go through the game again at this point just to see that "I've been through the game about 6 times - time to let it rest for a while"

So has anyone seen this ending? If so, could they describe it?

Thanks

 

I tried all I could and so far there is 2 options:

1. Kill the trandescent one. You will see him get killed.
2. Kill yourself with the blade of the immortal or "unmake" him. You will see yourself merge with him. Thats about it.

 

I suspect the answer to your question, is that the good ending was left out of the final version, but the music was not.

There are several cases of things like that in the games code.

First there are two musics that at no time appear in the game, no matter how I played it.

Second, there are six blades for Dak'kon that he can never get, possible just due to programmer error. I believe your interactions with him and other Githzeri while he is with you, being mean, nice, or indifferent, and doing the circle of Zerthamon, were supposed to change the blade type and the blade name. Indifferent (depressed) is the blade you have for the entire game, mean is a much more powerful blade that describes Dak'kon as being totally tortured and full of discord. Nice is a semi-weaker blade that describes Dak'kon as being at peace with himself and makes his blade slightly weaker but grants him new spell slots/abilities. These blade types exist for all level-variations, meaning it should be achivable at starting level. I also suspect that the nice blade is supposed to be gotten when Dak'kon get's his stat bonus' from compleating the Circle of Zerthamon, or after during some other conversation. His becoming at peace with himself after finishing the Circle specificly says his blade changes when it doesn't. The mean blade is probably supposed to be his weapon when he has that hollow abused broken kill-me-now look when you talk to him.

It's also possible that all of these are alive in the game, even the good ending, but must be done in one specific order to take place. There are a few little bugs in the game where conversations with one person can make something totally unrealated vanish from another (great example is getting your bug turned into stone, if you ask about it at the wrong time, you can never ask her once the FFG quest is mostly finished, if she will actually do it for you. Took me four times dealing with that house before I found out how to avoid the bug.)

Ferret.

 

actually, black isle were discussing the fact of whether to put in reputation or not, like in baldurs gate, and they were still discussing it when the game was near completion and the guys who made the weapons and shit didnt have a clue what was going on so they just made some new weapons for dak'kon depending on reputation, the weapons are available through trainers and hacks but can never be gotten without cheating. the different blades were from different reputations.

herf
(arent i just a fountain of knowledge about planescape torment?)

 

Do you know anything about the music tracks that made it in the game with no apparent sequence to go with them?

Ferret.

 

nope, damn!

 

Ending (stopping) the game before actual finish can be set those ways:

1. After you've been mazed start pestering Pain Lady's doll (40-50 times) while in Sigil so she killes you when you try to leave area (it has real animation!).

2. Become new Silent King.

3. Look Marissa in Brothel - she's Medussa.

4. Use Immortal Blade in Shadows Tower.

 

How do you become the new silent king?

 

First you have to try to talk Stale Mary. Then talk to Hargrimm about understanding her. Return, and Stale Mary will teach you Stories-Bones-Tell ability.
Now, pump up your charisma (one or two Friends spell) and then ask Stale Mary can you visit Silent King. She'll tell you how (portal).
So go there, meet Stale Mary and Hargrimm and within the chat you can propose that you'll be next Silent King. They will accept.

And, one my mistake, I completely forgot to say that killing people before they tell you important info also stops the game, i.e. if you kill Trias before he mentions Fort of Regrets.