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4E anyone?

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Doubt it. We would have seen more advertising before hand. It's curious though. "4DVENTURE" Would be interesting to see what happens

 

These people tend to think it is coming: http://theminiaturespage.com/news/519193/

Is a new version really necessary? Starting to sound like a cash-in to me.

 

duh. Wizards of the coast is all about cash ins. Allways have.

 

Yeah, it's official. But then, with WotC being in charge, who didn't see this coming?

 

Hey, does this mean it is time for me to break out the crusty old man clothes and do one of my "who needs these newfangled rules, things were better back when we had the red/blue/green box sets" rants?

 

I suspect 4ed will be much like the new star wars ruleset they recently published. Only 4 classes in SW now. All force skills have been wrapped up into one skill called "Use the force". Ohh and they removed the skillpoints. Reason : Assigning skillpoints was too complicated..........Go figure.
Now all your skills just increase as you level up. Everything we have to do to make a char is to pick gender, race and one of 4 classes. And then pick feats from some new "feat tree". Looks alot like diablo 2. Wich is of course excelent for pen and paper roleplaying games............I would bet money on this happening to d&d as well. I guess the future is all about dumbing things down for certain people.

 

This seems to be like going from AD&D to second Edition. It's the same basic rules, but a bit more streamlined with yet more options.

 

In case you haven't noticed in ALL games now; they've been dumbing things down for a while. You go and play the latest sequel to your favorite kind of games and you find out that the challenges are actually going backwards. It's this "new" thing companies have where they try to market to EVERYBODY when alot of people outside the scene don't care and the "hardcore crowd" feel jipped.
Oh, and I think 4e is just an opportunity for WotC to fatten their coffers; but that's my opinion.

 

Well I do belive your opinion hit the mark straight on. Wizards of the coast are starting to give me the same feeling i get when i hear that crap MTV pukes out.

 

Yeah, had the same problem when wanted to post it in the news.

 

The owner of my gaming shop told me about it at some point during the last academic year, but I didn't expect to see it come THIS soon.

Well I don't thik I'll be investing in 4E unless it's mind blowing. Too much cash I don't have.

 

oh god i hope not, 3.0 and 3,5 was imho the best thing that happened to DnD, AD&D was allready way to simple, if they mix it to make a simple version of AD&D/3.5 its going to suck.

 

Equester, you should look into the Saga rules. You'd be surprised.
They're simple, elegant, and seem to speed up gameplay significiantly. If 4th ed. is anything like that, it will work just fine.

 

posted at www.wizarduniverse.com is an article about 4th ed.

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This new edition will stick with the d20 system, but the designers see many elements that can be improved. One big emphasis has been on streamlining turns to help the game get around the table a bit quicker; they know there’s nothing the rules can do to keep a party’s mage and barbarian from wasting 15 minutes screaming over tactics at the start of every combat, but at least they can get you out of grappling details a bit faster. And the mage and barbarian might get along a little better thanks to revamped spell recovery rules that won’t do away with the need to rest to replenish spells, but will give players more options to recover spells and in-game incentives to do something other than call nappy-time every two encounters.

In essence, what you’re going to see mechanically is the d20 system evolved: rebuilding the clunky parts, greasing the wheels and polishing the chrome until you can see your character in it. Part of that polishing includes ramping up the coolness factor on some of the less-popular character classes to make sure that every class has a unique and essential role in a well-balanced party; you might see some of the traditional classes fall out of the base book in favor of sexier roles. The same thing will happen to the races covered in the core books, where the half-demon tieflings will claim a place at the expense of an undisclosed race—we’re guessing a half-elf, gnome and halfling were shut up in a dark cave with some paring knives, and no questions were asked of whoever came out…heck, there might even be three new races in the new edition! Not to worry; Slavicsek promises that any beloved races cut from the core books will appear in early Fourth Edition expansions.

man, getting rid of a core race??! !?? WTF are they thinking

it says that the core books should ship may,june,july of '08

 

They may be trying to make it more accessable to the lowest common denominator, while adding products to accommodate the more demanding players.

 

Quote: Equester, you should look into the Saga rules. You'd be surprised.
They're simple, elegant, and seem to speed up gameplay significiantly. If 4th ed. is anything like that, it will work just fine.


Well they did remove the wound point system in the saga edition. Wich basically means that if you are level 12 or something, you can take a blaster pistol and shoot yourself in the chest, and still survive without any negative effects at all. But if you do that as level 1 you will die. Effectivly removing every "star wars realism" there is. But for those of us who likes diablo and console "rpgs" I belive the new sw ruleset will be great fun for you. Its what pen and paper roleplaying games are morphing into it seems.

 

Rawgrim, shooting yourself counts as Coup-de-Grace.