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Kelemvor necromancers & rangers?

Discussion in 'Dungeons & Dragons + Other RPGs' started by Eyebreaker7, Feb 15, 2017.

  1. Eyebreaker7

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    His clerics sometimes dual class to necromancers or rangers. Kind of a strange mix don't you think? :nuts:

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    Strange in what way?
     
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    It just seems like 2 opposing classes. Like they would be against one and the other. On one end we have the necromancer that corrupts the nature of things. On the other end we have the ranger which is about preserving life and nature. Just seems opposites to me is all.
     
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    Kelemvor finds the undead to be abominations. A Ranger with a racial enemy of undead makes sense, so does a Necromancer that uses their powers to control and destroy the undead.
     
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    I've never heard of a necromancer destroying undead?? If Kel dislikes undead so much why would he want anyone under his name to control undead either?
     
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    I guess you've never met a Necromancer of Kelemvor's ;)

    Look, I don't think it's so hard to picture. Say you're a Cleric of Kelemvor and you appreciate your god's hatred for undead so you decide to study Necromancy to better understand the enemy. There are plenty of mage spells that are good for destroying undead. I mean, just one example of a spell from the Necromancy school itself is Undead-Slayer.

    And as far as control: Maybe you want to prevent the undead from doing their evil deeds?

    Like I said, not so hard to picture scenarios.
     
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    Necromancer of Kelemvor's? Unfortunately not. I don't get to play anymore. Is the Kel necro from 3.5? That's the version we played back when I was still with the group. I've never heard of a spell named "Undead-Slayer"? What source is that from?

    Thanks for explaining it to me. It makes sense now.
    Sorry to have ruffled your feathers. I was merely trying to understand.
     
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    Not at all; no ruffled feathers here :) And I was just joking about a Necromancer of Kelemvor (note the smilie-wink).

    I just found that spell here: http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/3.5e_Necromancy_Spells It's apparently from 3E, but I didn't see it in the Player's Handbook; I did however see the Necromancy spell Undeath to Death in the PH which is another good one for destroying undead.
     
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    Ok cool. I suffer from depression and paranoia among other things so I guess my paranoia kicked in a little :o You'd think that by the age of 46 I wouldn't have such problems. :banana:

    A necromancer of Kelemvor sounded like it was real, and cool, since it says his clerics sometimes multiclass as necromancers.
    It also says "sometimes multiclass as necromancers or rangers using their knowledge to hunt down and destroy undead." So if I had finished reading that part :book: I would have known why and never would have even asked. lol.

    Wow! That's a crap ton of necro spells. Thanks for the link. Going to give me something to do, read, for a while :1eye:
    The spell Undeath to Death looks like a 3.x version of death spell maybe??
     
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    Undeath to Death was in my 3.5E PH and kills some number of HD of undead.
     
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    Not all necromancers are evil, undead-spawning psychotics. Necromancy, by definition, is the art of communing with the dead. Kelemvor is the god of Death and so it makes sense that a class specializing in death and decay would be a favored choice by his followers. Also, in most systems (3rd edition D&D being an exception), healing spells fall under necromancy and not conjuration.

    Rangers make less sense, but I suppose if you can't be a paladin (which has a hard entry in most systems), a ranger might be a logical choice for an undead hunter.
     
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