Kensai vs. Monk vs. Barbarian (pure)

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yah....these three r the most of the fighters....those who want to fight will chose either of them.....

Kensai good THACO....good speed...but low AC

Monk good saving throws...resistance for magic..good speed....good FIST...good fight
BUT....low ac(quite)....not very good THACO(compare to kensai)....and low selection of weapons.....

Barbarian....good AC..good skills..but low proficiencies in weapons.....

SO......whose the best.....(no dc...)

 

Me tried the kensai first.
It was a very disappointin' experience.
Me had no chance against most good armor classed opponents. Don't play with it, it's a waste.
The monk. A very though opponent, with good chance to survive, but low on hit points.

Me recommend the barbarian with the half orc race(19 str, 19 con.
My half orc barbarian had hit points around 180 and a THACO of -11( with Crom Faer) at level 19. It also can rage 5 times a day(+4 str, con many immunities etc)

Me vote for the barbarian. It's awesome I say!

 

I like the pure fighter as a tank. It has no disadvantages and can Grandmaster in all weapons. Sure he doesnt get any bonuses but if i had to choose one thats the one

 

Elven Kensai With full long sword and dual weapon proficiencies. Equip good long swords and boots of speed, girdle of piercing and The Magic resistance amulet from Ust Natha.
Guaranteed to Rock your world

 

I am presently playing an elf fighter. Most people would probaby pick a half-orc, but an elf is good with long swords. so i get, i think a whole attack per round. i put two slots in sword and sheild style and the rest in long sword. I get a bonus in dex. So my Ac is -15 and i get 3 attacks per round and i didnt duel weild. My tahco is -10. i am also a level 19 that could have something to do with it. I think my saves are better to. I am playing a monk at my mmoms where i live part time. I am only a level 10 and my ac is -3 and i deal out a decent amount of damage obout same as my fighter.My monk deals from 15 to 36 (i think)damage. Plus at a certain level the fist does 1-20 damge ( i think. the monk is really fast he gets an extra attack every three levels when using fists. If i were to choose from a kensai, barbarian or a monk i would choose the monk. One more thing he gets this quivering palm ability. his advantages are to many to list.

 

Elf kensai? I thought only humans can take the kensai kit?

 

nope. Give your elven kensai FULL long sword specialization (why? you find a +1 weapon right away, they're common and The Equalizer is a longsword) because besides this, elves specialize in the long sword. Put all the remaining proficiencies in dual weapon. His AC may be low but equip him with something to protect against arrows and some magic resistance items then give him the boots of speed. -What cannot be caught, cannot be hurt-

 

i was using a elf kensai......4 star in long sword and another 4 in katana...and 2 more in dual waepon......THACO is very high....

i dont like to use those power items like crom hammer and cloack of reflection(they suck....they r like codes)

as for AC....not so much worry....when u can kill something fast.....no time for it to retaliate.....but still ....anybody can suggest a way to raise his AC

 

U can raise AC with the Ring of Protection +2, Ring of Kangaxx and the Cloak of the Sewers. By using these items ye can get an AC bonus of +5, saving throw bonus +4, regenerating and some magic resistance.

 

In addition, I think armor class is important, when fighting multiple low level foes, because they can hit u too.
While u're occupied with one of them, the rest (archers regulary) will surely finish you.

An addition to my previous post: u can also increase armor class if you choose two slots of single weapon fighting style. With these u can accomplish an armor class of max -3, VERY BAD I SAY- especially against vampires, 'cause the kensai has no defense against their level draining. A warrior is nothing without good defences, but these guys only have offense of some sort. If only they could use bracers, they would RULE! Their Kai ability would be useful if it weren't fade in ten seconds, so it is NOTHING!

Conclusion: the kensai is very good for a duel, but acts poorly in though battles.

 

cause the kensai has no defense against
their level draining <- This is why Keldorn and minsc are around, they take the damage and attack at the same time. My Bladesinger attacks from the side and is ignored... a fatal mistake.

 

I think the monk is the best
I'm lvl 18 make 4 attack of 1-20 without strengt bonus
ac -3 natural
quivering palm and stunning blow
magic resistance
fast movement
what do you need more???

 

yep im gunna have to go with the monk, early hes a tough one to use, but later hes highly resistant to magic, kinda like a drow, which makes him a tank, plus his natural fighting ablilty at +3 fists, then those bracers u get off that fish prince man, makes him a very good attacker, so my vote if for the monk.

 

the monk defenitely, immunity to normal weapons solves a lot of trouble

 

Soon I'll start a new MP-part... I will play them all!

 

Monks are pratically gods after level 20. They can deal out massive damage, high armour points and not to mention a list of immunities and magical resistance.

Monks rules

 

It's stupid to give your characters proficiency's (sp?) in weapons that you can get far later in the game...
You shouldn't get a prof in long sword because of the equaliser! I was already a level 19 half-orc barbarian before I finally finished it...!
You must give that prof, because you'll find namara very soon in the game and daystar also...
I read about Belm, that scimitar that gives you an extra attack, and I still haven't found the darn sword!
I just arrived at Suldannesselar and I found it a waste of profs, because I wanted that weapon, while I never found it (BTW, Where is it?!).
Of course, if you've never played the game before, you can't know what weapons you'll find...
My advice on proficiecy's at the beginning of the game:
-Long sword
-Axe
-Katana
-Two handed sword

These are the one's you need.

 

By the way, where do you get the ring of protection +2? I've found several +1 rings, but not a +2 yet. (You don't have to be too specific, a hint is fine)

 

pretty sure u get it from Aran Linvail when u pay galen bayle

 

there's also one more later either in underdark or in some area close to it (brynnlaw or asylum dungeon)

[This message has been edited by ayecapitan (edited April 20, 2001).]