Korgan alignment change?

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Hey guys.

My nephew told me that in a party with Korgan and Mazzy, Korgan would change alignment because of Mazzy.

Now, I am aware of and have experienced Viconia and Sarevok change alignment, but I have never used Korgan.

And I have never read in any walkthroughs or NPC guides that Korgan could change alignment, so can it be done?

Has any of you ever experienced that?

 

No, I haven't heard about it either, maybe a mod does it, but vanilla game does not.

Korgan behaves more...reasonably when Mazzy is around though, he has a crush on her! It is more like a parody though, the love of a CE guy and a LG lass!

 

Thanks Silverstar

I also suspect it is a mod since al those excellent walkthroughs and NPC guides I have downloaded from here doesn't mention it.

I have read the NPC interactions docs from here, and you are right, the banters between Mazzy and Korgan is a blast

 

No. It's an idea that have been batted around among modders, but noone has actually written a mod to do it, afaik.

To turn the idea on its head: has anyone seen a mod that allows any of the standard npcs to fall to evil?

 

No, but I think I'll suggest that to the ELIP crew over at RPG Dungeon.

 

Oh yes, corrupting Aerie would be fun! She may be cooler when she is evil!

 

An evil Aerie...

Actually that's a pretty cool idea.

 

Wauv.

It sure got a bit off topic fast.

But anyway I probably got my answer.

An evil Aerie hm.... how about evil Keldorn? Could be interesting....

 

Keldorn is beyond temptation of turning to the dark side if you ask me. He's too old and wise to succumb to that. Aerie, on the other side, is young and naive, and she would fell to the temptation much easier. Especialy in the right party, aka, evil PC, Korgan, Edwin and Viconia.

 

I agree with Mordokai, Keldorn knows the many faces of evil, has faced them and resisted them for his many years. Aerie is sheltered and clearly relies on CHARNAME for support. Reminds me a bit of Dangerous Liasons.

 

Vanilla BG2 Korgan is practically neutral evil/true neutral anyway. Yet another NPC alignment that BIO screwed up. He's supposed to be a chaotic evil berserker, but he becomes best buddies with lawful good paladin Keldorn in SOA and best pals with sniveling Imoen in TOB. No mod is even needed to make him act out of character.

 

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Well, kind of. Aerie's ending text (if the PC is female or otherwise does not romance her) indicates she became close, at some point, to changing her outlook due to the hatred she felt for slavers. It could be that her demeanor could change... in a mod.

How about another idea, by the way: Helm of Opposite Alignment. It's available through the console, I believe - and imo could even be imported from BG I. Anyway, as for Korgan being "buddies" with Keldorn, while he respects the human's fighting prowess, going further is stretching it. CE individuals respect nothing like power, no matter where it comes from. As for Imoen: people, that 16 charisma has to count for something, after all. With such abilities, Immy could sweet-talk a glabrezu, given a minute or two. Besides, being able to out-insult a battlerager is a feat in itself .

[ October 03, 2006, 19:21: Message edited by: The Shaman ]

 

I know of that, but imo that does not make her evil. Dedicated, yes. Evil, no. But I would say that she is no longer lawful good, by that time, one could even say that she became chaotic neutral, which isn't far from evil. Damn, I would so like too see CE Aerie. Korgan would love that too, I'm sure

Nalia springs to mind, when thinking of good characters becoming evil. Damn, that snooty b***h could use some of her own medication

 

I don't get why people think "Evil" Aerie would be good? She's already whiny little kid, being evil would just make her [more] self-absorbed. Nalia as an evil snob might be interesting, but she's characterized as too soft-hearted to really pull it off.

And now that I give this thread a second look, how in hell does Chaotic Evil Berserker Korgan become attracted to Lawful Good Wannabe-Paladin Mazzy, who isn't even of the same race? Just another example of BIO dropping the ball with NPC alignment.

If you have Korgan in your party, just don't look at the bottom part of his character sheet that lists his alignment. The guy's true neutral if he's anything, neutral evil with lots of stretching. His actual alignment should be "neutral goofball," a counter part to Minsc's "goofball good" alignment.

 

Actually Keldorn is probably more out of alignment to even allow Korgan in the same party?

Or am I mixing 2E and 3E rules?

I thought paladins were not allowed to associate with evil characters, assasinate,lie, use deception or use poison.

And while Keldorn is more than willing to kill Viconia and Edwin on sight, he does nothing against or Korgan?

[ October 04, 2006, 01:32: Message edited by: Ironhawk Skylord ]

 

Obviously, love is blind.

That would make him out of class-role, not out of alignment, I think.

 

Ah, yes. You're right henkie

 

Well, Korgan isn't as wicked as Edwin and Viconia. I actually see Korgan basically a Neutral character rather than Evil. (Remember Korgan's comment about keeeping children as slaves inside Slavers' ship building. He actually condemns slavers for what they do.)

 

I think the reason why Korgan is CE is that he has basically no qualms about killing anyone or destroying anything, and he revels in what he does.

It really doesn't matter if he likes to have Keldorn around (perhaps it amuses him or whatever - Korgan is intelligent and wise enough to know not reveal his true intents to anyone) or that he just happens to have a particular hatred towards slavers (so what? he'll likely kill the all the slaves along with their masters anyway, given the chance).

Note that Korgan has lived long enough as a CE to know that your "average" CE character probably wouldn't last 3 seconds under the sun if he were to kill everyone or destroying anything he meets. I also don't see him as Neutral Evil, since given his character if only his life or best interests were not on the line then he'd probably want nothing better than to butcher everyone in the Copper Coronet.

 

I disagree.

Korgan condemns keeping little children as slaves. It's not just a matter of hating slavers for a personal and independent reason. He condemns what they do. I can't imagine korgan killing children.