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Linux newbie requires assistance (remote control)

Discussion in 'Whatnots' started by Mollusken, Jan 22, 2003.

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    I've installed Redhat Linux 8.0 (graphical) on a computer (just for fun), and I want to controll it from my Windwos XP computer (over LAN). Is there a program which allows me to control the Linux machine in graphical mode (not just the command line)? Something similair to the Windows XP Remote Desktop Connection...

    [ January 22, 2003, 18:47: Message edited by: Mollusken ]
     
    Mollusken, Jan 22, 2003
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    Control a Linux machine with Windows? Perish the thought! :shake:

    Seriously, I haven't heard of anything like that being possible to do with an identical GUI.
     
    Taluntain, Jan 22, 2003
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    Putty??

    It´s an remote desktop accesing the linuxstation through SSH
     
    Morgoth, Jan 22, 2003
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    if you set your machine up to accept SSH connections, you could than use puTTy to connect to your computer. Thise would set you to command prompt where than you would promptly type the command to start the graphical mode.

    To get into grahical mode you could try
    crtl-alt-f7
    or
    redhat-configure-xfree86
    or
    startx
    or
    init 5

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    You just need an win32 xterm client. As mentioned, PuTTY fills this role (among others). Back when I was studying at uni, I used to complete work like this. Not (m)any good win32 xterm clients were around back then, so I had to use a trial version of a commercial one and reconnect every 30 mins or something... very annoying.

    Trying linux, eh? Have you considered FreeBSD? People can (and probably do) argue all day about the merits of each... they both good, just check FreeBSD out some time, if you get a chance.
     
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    My understanding of puTTY is just a terminal emulator for telnet across SSH; not what he wanted. You need an X server on your Windows machine to process the X graphics commands from the Linux machine.

    There are various X servers that you can buy, but they aren't cheap. eXceed and X-Win32 are the most common that I know of and X-Win32 you can get for free if you can deal with a 30 minute-at-a-time (I think) timeout limit after a 30 day evaluation period.

    http://www.starnet.com/products/

    You may be able to find a free X server out there, but it's doubtful it'd work all that great.

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    BTA's right. PuTTY won't give him the GUI he wants.
     
    Taluntain, Jan 23, 2003
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    Sorry... a slip in terminology (no pun intended).

    Not an xterm client, just an X client. PuTTY is an xterm/telnet/SSH client, which, as stated, won't do it. You need an win32 X client - and yes, you need a type of emulation layer (well, really provides UI calls) provided by a local "server". The link provided is actually the one I used a demo copy of, way back when.

    That said, I don't think you'll find you can achieve much with remote X access that you couldn't achieve with MS Windows + terminal + SAMBA (or just FTP, if you can't be bothered configuring that). Unless, of course, you plan on practicing coding UI stuff for XWindows, or have specific linux GUI programs you need to run remotely.

    There is another option I've come across - you could probably achieve what you're after with a bit of a workaround: use VNC. This is free, as far as I understand, but will require more configuring on both ends to get running.

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    [​IMG] Well, that's not quite right. Essentially every X application is a client that connects to an X server that handles the X directives. Which server it connects to is completely configurable: all you need to do is tell the X application which server to use in the form hostname:displaynumber.screennumber where hostname can be any host that will accept X traffic from you (displaynumber and screennumber are typically 0.0 since most of the time a single monitor is connected and there's only one X server).

    So, to remotely run X applications on your Linux machine that display their graphics/accept input from your local machine, all you need is an X server on your local machine, and a way to remotely start the X applications on the Linux machine. Typically for Windows, the X servers provide a way to remotely start the applications, but you can just as well use a telnet session.

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    *whew*

    Mollusk, that there just ain't like it works. Basically, my first instinct is to just flat out tell you no.

    It depends on exactly *what* you're wanting to do. There are, most likely, some various nappy little programs to configure ipchains and gateway stuff. But for full out scripts and configuration, that is exactly why Linux AND Unix have "command lines".

    Telnet.

    You might be afraid of it. Hell, I'm still leary of it.

    But it's worked since 1969. Something's nifty about it...
     
    ejsmith, Jan 24, 2003
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    Well, there's one good thing to it... You never see any blue screens or error windows. :D
     
    Taluntain, Jan 24, 2003
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