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Melf's Minute Meteors

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Wil, Nov 25, 2003.

  1. Wil Gems: 6/31
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    Remove all ads!
    As you all know, this spell ignores MR.
    Do you think it's a bug, because I don't see any good reason?
     
    Wil, Nov 25, 2003
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    It bypasses MR?
    Heh, I did'nt know that...
     
    Faraaz, Nov 25, 2003
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    There's no spell actually cast on the target. What you're actually hitting him with (according to the engine) are +5 projectiles with fire damage. This is a bug, yes, but it's one that nothing can be done about (other than making the enemy immune to +5 weapons or less, which would be really annoying.)
     
    Rastor, Nov 25, 2003
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    Just on that note, how would you defeat an enemy with +5 immunity?

    With a +12 Hackmaster, mwahah!
     
    Razal'dar, Nov 26, 2003
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    Exactly why I don't really feel like playing around trying to fix this bug.
     
    Rastor, Nov 26, 2003
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    It could be done, but not easily.

    You'd just have to keep lowering their MR so that you could get 'em with spells.
     
    Mystra's Chosen, Nov 26, 2003
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    Melf's Minite Missiles are missiles so there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to hit MR creatures with them any more than you shouldn't be able to wallop them with Mordenkainen's sword. It ain't a bug, it's correct behaviour.
     
    Chris Williams, Nov 26, 2003
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    What I was calling a bug is that it is a spell with the ability to affect creatures totally immune to magic, that isn't right.

    Huh?
     
    Rastor, Nov 26, 2003
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    That's how you could kill something with +5 immunity- lower their MR and kill them with spells.
     
    Sparhawk the Pandion, Nov 27, 2003
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    Magic resistance and being immune to +x weapons are independent of one another--lowering MR won't affect what weapons can hurt a creature.
     
    CamDawg, Nov 27, 2003
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    I know that.

    What he was saying was that if a monster is immune to +5 or lower, the only way would be to kill it with offensive spells (since there are no +6 weapons in SoA).
     
    Sparhawk the Pandion, Nov 28, 2003
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    MMM is one of my favourite spells, try throwing a time stop into the mix, its a deadly combo to throw at anything.
     
    Septic Yogurt, Nov 28, 2003
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