Most Item-dependant solo?

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I've realized recently that my enjoyment with a solo is directly related to the variety of items I must use. My Cleric/Fighter solo that I just beat ToB with, for example, got very very boring by the time I busted out of Saradush for the first time because every single battle (even the boss battles and demogorgon) consisted simply of:

Chaotic commands + remove fear + hardiness + hardiness + hardiness + greater whirlwind

As you can imagine, the "same old thing" every battle got very boring. Using lots of different items is the spice of life for me, and I'm wondering what class must use lots of cool items/potions/scrolls/whatever in order to survive as a solo.

My initial inclination points me to blade or bounty hunter, but I'm interested in everyone else's opinions as to which solo builds will result in the greatest use of the greatest variety of items.

A side note, I'm not looking for "deliberately hampered" characters. In other words, I realize that a human mage with the worst possible stats would need lots of items to live, but I'm not interested in that. I'm looking for which class, when played well and with legitimate stats, is the most item-dependant.

THANKS!

 

Well, vanilla fighter needs lots of different items as well as tactics.
Items that duplicate most useful spells, potions, different weapons to match different situations etc.

 

Are you sure Goli?

Seems to me that all a fighter would need is something to beat mind-affecting spells, something to beat fear, and gww/hardiness...

I rarely casted anything but chaotic commands and remove fear with my cleric/fighter and it was quite easy, so it seems like those are the only things you really need to duplicate through items/potions.

 

Well, depends are we talking about just ToB or SoA+ToB, which is the way i always play. But if we're talking about only ToB, then i'm pretty clueless.
Well, that being the case it would be perhaps bounty hunter or blade, like you said.

 

Yes I play SoA+ToB just like you. With a singleclass solo the levelling is so darn fast that you can think in terms of HLA pretty much right off the bat.

 

Not necessarily. Check this thread for an idea of how challenging a pure fighter solo can be.

By the way, if you want more of a challenge, install the fixpack so you can't stack hardiness with itself - that's not really supposed to be doable.

 

I've seen thetruth's impossible solo thread, but I'm not interested in installing mods. They overdo it a bit for my liking, I wish there was something that was somewhere between the regular game and tactics/ascension in terms of difficulty.

I still think that soloing a fighter would be as easy as finding immunity to fear and mind affecting spells, then using hardiness+gww.

One would think that with their UAI ability, bards or thiefs would be the most item-dependant classes, but I would still like the opinion of more seasoned vets. than myself.

 

Play a jester. A regular bard with no combat abilities like the Blade would take a bit of doing, and the Jester lets you experiment with his neat confusing "song". Just don't get Improved Bard Song when you get to HLAs, because that'd actually handicap your solo.

 

What about a vanilla Ranger? Not as strong as a figher but has its own adventages.

 

@Felinoid: A jester is an interesting proposition! I'm sure my enemies would be quite...confused if I had 4 misleads singing! I would have a heckuva time against anything that posessed saving throws though (the save vs. the confusion is at +4 IIRC). Plus the pickpocketing would certainly have its benefits with regards to getting all those items I desire without going bankrupt (at least at first, before I become inevitably mired in gold as solos tend to do).

chris, your idea sounds intriguing as well. Vanilla ranger, though, would probably have an easy time once I got to HLAS, since they get the same GWW+Hardiness as the fighter.

 

Well yeah, you're not going to be cavorting for Melissan, but it's funny to watch the little people go bonkers.

 

The wierdest thing about Jesters is how their RP translates into the effect of their bardsong.

IIRC, confused creatures will either wander around, stand still, or attack the nearest creature (friend or foe).

I'm just imagining this guy all decked out in armor and weaponry runs into the room, you and your buddys are about to attack him, and all of a sudden he starts dancing around and telling jokes and juggling, and this somehow makes you decide that you feel like killing your friend.

Jesters are so wierd!

It would be nice if you could play them with gnomes, as gnomes are clearly the "comic relief" race.

 

A good analogy might be watching Carrot Top do standup.