Namarra and DemiLich

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There is a long sword in the graveyard district that I believe is called Namarra. One of its effects is the wielder can cast silence 15' radius. My question is whether or not this will affect the demilich's imprionment ability. I assume it will prevent him from casting spells, but it seems like the imprisonment he casts isn't a spell, but rather an innate ability. Does anyone know if this works? I have never tried it before, but if it does work it would obviously allow one to fight the demilich at a much earlier point in the game.

 

Silence spells do not affect the casting ability of Demilich. I checked it. I checked its script and creature file, the Imprisonment (scripting name: DEMILICH_TRAP_SOUL) is triggered by ForceSpell and ReallyForceSpell commands. These commands make a creature cast a spell even if the creature is Silenced.
(By the way Imprisonment can be found in the .CRE file as an innate ability, but since (Really)ForceSpell does not need a spell/ability to be memorized, these references in the .cre file are unused)

[ February 11, 2004, 19:55: Message edited by: Baronius ]

 

I've never thought to try the Silence spell against a Demilich because I always figured that their Howl ability wasn't a spell as such (at least not in the same sense as Fireball and Finger of Death are spells) but some kind of innate ability. Good job I never tried considering it won't work.

 

Isn't the Demilich, like, immune to pretty much all spells in BG2? So can he/it even be silenced?

 

Xei's right; Kangaxx is immune to spells of level 1-9.

 

Level 1-8.

 

Kang is suceptible to protection removal spells however such as spellstrike, Breach, Remove Magic etc.

 

Though such spells are useless since he never casts any protection spells.

 

Kangaxx is immune to spells of level 1-9.

 

Kangaxx isn't immune to Time Stop. My fighter/mage got him a couple of times with that spell.

 

That's because, technically, Time Stop is cast on yourself.

 

@CamDawg

It isn't really cast on yourself. It is cast on everybody else but yourself. So I would tend to think that if the demi lich is effected by it, then he isn't immune to ninth level spells.

 

I understand the spell, from a RP point of view, is cast on everyone except the caster; I was speaking from a game mechanics PoV. Melf's Minute Meteors can hit Kangy as well, but I don't think anyone is going to try and argue that it means he's not immune to third level spells. Try using Energy Drain or Imprisonment on Kangaxx and let me know how it works.

 

Melf's Minute Meteors are technically items, not a spell.

Black Blade of Disaster will work on him as well. Kangaxx is immune to all spells that are cast on him.

 

I've killed him last game with Kelsey and Dragons Breath. Does this mean that I've clicked next to him or that you need the HL spells to hurt him directly?

 

Perhaps the game treats Dragon's Breath as a level 10 spell (that's what the manual says). Thus things like DB and Comet should be able to hurt him.

 

You were right. I have checked both DemiLichs' files, and they are immune to spells from level 1-9 (they wear the ring called DEMILICH.ITM, which gives lots of other immunities and resistances as well). I used to kill Kangaxx with Elementals, but I used Dragon's Breath on the other one (because I was able to use high-level abilities at that stage of the game). Dragon's Breath is considered as a 10th level spell. Since there is no page on the Spell book for these spells, they can be found in 9th level page, and this is what confused me.

 

Also, I think he is immune to spells level 1-9 cast on him directly. Not area affect spells. That's why I think silence 15' radius would stop him from casting spells like time stop, but wouldn't stop him from casting the imprisonment, as it's an innate ability. However, he certainly is immune to fireball, and that can be cast near him and not directly on him. I'm not sure. Also, like has been said, spells that bring down his defenses like breach, also work on him.