1. SPS Accounts:
    Do you find yourself coming back time after time? Do you appreciate the ongoing hard work to keep this community focused and successful in its mission? Please consider supporting us by upgrading to an SPS Account. Besides the warm and fuzzy feeling that comes from supporting a good cause, you'll also get a significant number of ever-expanding perks and benefits on the site and the forums. Click here to find out more.
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
You are currently viewing Boards o' Magick as a guest, but you can register an account here. Registration is fast, easy and free. Once registered you will have access to search the forums, create and respond to threads, PM other members, upload screenshots and access many other features unavailable to guests.

BoM cultivates a friendly and welcoming atmosphere. We have been aiming for quality over quantity with our forums from their inception, and believe that this distinction is truly tangible and valued by our members. We'd love to have you join us today!

(If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. If you've forgotten your username or password, click here.)

Newbie would like help with words

Discussion in 'Icewind Dale 2' started by duffy, Nov 17, 2002.

  1. duffy Gems: 1/31
    Latest gem: Turquoise


    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2002
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    [​IMG] These are used in walkthroughs:
    buff spells dmg spells
    tanks scouth
    hof
     
  2. Extremist Gems: 31/31
    Latest gem: Rogue Stone


    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2001
    Messages:
    4,366
    Likes Received:
    0
    [​IMG] You're right to be mad as I'm always mad when there is no abbreviation explanation in public stuff. Anyway, this is what I know and think:

    buff spells
    - ??? Beats me, never heard of these, but since buff means polish, I guess buff spells are spells that polish your hero so he gets so slippery that noone can grab him/her.

    dmg spells
    - Easy! Spells that inflict damage.

    tanks
    - Vehicles used in WW1 and WW2 (WW - world war).
    - In Fallout2 and some other games = containers.
    - Jailcells in BG2 and IWD2 - you'll see some of these, IIRC there is illithid tank in IWD2.

    scouth
    - Excuse me, but I don't think this is an english word.

    hof
    - Heart of Fury mode available in IWD2 only when you finish the game at least once. Allows you to boost your characters up to level 30, however it's played on the hardest game difficulty.

    Anyway, in this case I'm with you, if the walkthrough author can't explain abbreviations in few lines, how can he explain the whole game then?
     
  3. Jesper898 Gems: 21/31
    Latest gem: Pearl


    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2001
    Messages:
    1,356
    Likes Received:
    0
    Buff spells are pells that buff up your attributes(like eagles splendor or bulls strength)
     
  4. Extremist Gems: 31/31
    Latest gem: Rogue Stone


    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2001
    Messages:
    4,366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Um, I know that my english sucks, but I always thought that it's "beef up" not "buff up"? Or I use the lame dictionary...

    The dictionary I use is from Princeton University, it's freeware version is downloadable here:
    http://wordweb.info/
     
  5. reepnorp

    reepnorp Lim'n Lime Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!)

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2002
    Messages:
    1,675
    Media:
    1
    Likes Received:
    12
    Gender:
    Male
    It is pretty much just the way we talk. It means what jesper898 said. What can I say, english just isn't english anymore!
     
  6. Baezlebub Gems: 18/31
    Latest gem: Horn Coral


    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2002
    Messages:
    1,076
    Likes Received:
    0
    Tank -> biggest fighter that you have in your party. The one with the largest Hp (hit points) and the best attack rolls etc. Usually means a monk or dwarf fighter.

    scouth -> FIIK. (f*cked if i know) what context is it used in?? you should be able to figure it out.
     
  7. Thorin Gems: 9/31
    Latest gem: Iol


    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2002
    Messages:
    303
    Likes Received:
    0
    Personnaly I there are two different types of tanks:

    Killers: These characters have good hp, but more importantly can kill anything in the game, allowing other people to hide behind them and do whatever the want. Best character for this is most likely the monk

    Meat Sheilds: These characters have only one purpose in life, to make sure that every single enemy attacks them so that the mages can cast spells and thiefs can use sneak attack.
    best character would be barb(ie in nwn, take dmg reduction, loads of parry, regeneration, and more damage soak items, and any item that gives constiton bonus)
     
  8. Faragon Gems: 25/31
    Latest gem: Moonbar


    Veteran

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2001
    Messages:
    2,015
    Likes Received:
    0
    scouth? You probably mean Scout. This is a character who recons the area, so you are less likely to stumble over monsters. Most commonly used scouts are rangers and rogues, though it can be done by anyone who is able to hide in shadows.
     
  9. Capt. Tripps Gems: 9/31
    Latest gem: Iol


    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2001
    Messages:
    341
    Likes Received:
    0
    "Buff" comes from buffer -to add padding or protection between two items. When you buff-up you're increasing the protection of your PCs against the NPCs. So buff spells are Bless, Barkskin and other protection spells that you cast before going into battle.
     
  10. Earl Grey

    Earl Grey Mmm... hot tea! Veteran

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2000
    Messages:
    1,933
    Likes Received:
    1
    [​IMG] :D
    Extremists first reply was quite funny!
    A comment in the debate about how fantasy images are stereotypes of the hero and his/her body? ;)

    Tanks have been used in many other wars. :)

    Seriously though, the basic meaning of tank in these games is a character who can take lots of punishment, i.e. he/she has very good defense and plenty of HP's.
    By "tanking" a "tank" buys time for the characters who have a good offense, but weak defense - like spellcasters - to get off their powerful attacks in relative peace.

    - Buffs
    Capt. Tripps and Jesper898 are both right. IMO (In My Opinion) buff spells are those that in any way can pump up your hero's capabilities, be they defensive or offensive.
     
  11. Extremist Gems: 31/31
    Latest gem: Rogue Stone


    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2001
    Messages:
    4,366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Really?

    I guess then that buff spells include spells that can summon an ally which is "a character who can take lots of punishment".
    Also I bet that tank spells are spells that pump up your hero's capabilities. :p :p

    Yes, I'm trying to be funny and sarcastic here, and not because I don't understand those words (I do know what they mean), but because if you're using them in publically released material, you should explain their meaning.

    IIRC every single game manual in this world explains what is NPC, noone expects from player to know it before reading the manual. When you're using an uncommon word that is not explained with the manual or within the game, what do you expect from people? You know pretty well that Elder Brain in IWD2 actually *is* inside a tank. Does that mean your party consists from (example):
    - a bard,
    - a rougue,
    - and two elder brains with legs?

    I bet you'd get better response if you've used Arnold and Sly instead of "tanks". Oddly noone asked where to buy those WW2 tanks and where to find fuel for them. Um, at least not yet. But if anyone asked this, would that be a stupid person or a stupid person is that one who expects from people to read someone's mind?

    Anyway, excuse me for my bragging, but isn't it really strange that a person who actually speaks english since born asks for explanation on this wording?
    Or perhaps people in New Zealand don't speak english?
     
  12. Khazraj Gems: 20/31
    Latest gem: Garnet


    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2002
    Messages:
    1,257
    Likes Received:
    0
    Not really, "dmg" and "hof" are not words in English, acronyms and abbreviations...

    Of course people won't know these terms without explanation. You're right though, we should be more careful with our meanings. Helps us understand each other, ti znash...
     
Sorcerer's Place is a project run entirely by fans and for fans. Maintaining Sorcerer's Place and a stable environment for all our hosted sites requires a substantial amount of our time and funds on a regular basis, so please consider supporting us to keep the site up & running smoothly. Thank you!

Sorcerers.net is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to products on amazon.com, amazon.ca and amazon.co.uk. Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates.