On Goings-on of Late

You hypocrite,

there are young children reading these post, who we must protect from bad words, porn, bloody anime, counterstrike and beer!!



[Very funny. Try being funny again and see if you'll get by with just IOTW or a full ban.] -Tal

[jeez, I was just joking. But I´m happy you start about this, before SP turns into a Jerry Springer Show]

[ September 09, 2002, 21:32: Message edited by: Morgoth ]

 

"No personal or racial insults"

Why, exactly, do you single out race? It's just another personal characteristic, and not one that should be singled out for special preference. I know you're just shooting down some loudmouths here, but this is a common tendency that annoys me.

I, for one, am a honkie. Anyone wishing to make cracker jokes is welcome. I also suggest lots of sheep jokes, as my ancestry is primarily Scotch-Irish. Throw in some Nazi humor because of my grandmother's German side. Oh, and you can call me a porch monkey too, because (rumor has it) there's black blood in the family too. There's no Italian in my background, so WOP jokes are out, but I do hear that there could be some French back there too, so feel free to call me a frog.

[ September 09, 2002, 18:19: Message edited by: Shralp ]

 

Eye color, hair color, height, weight, number of toes...

They're all just personal characteristics. There's no reason to privelege race as something that can't be mentioned or joked about.

(Religion is different, as it's something one has voluntarily rather than genetically.)

 

good move tal!

 

Does this also apply to people's beliefs in certain areas that are not exactly, what is considered to be the norm by most people?

For example my 'Real Magic' topic that i requested clothes due to a late number of 'silly' posts?

 

Hmm, wasn't aware that putting just one astricks (sp) wasn't allowed. Maybe you should add that one to the FAQ, as it is tollerated everywhere else and people (after this post is dead and burried) may not realise.

 

Tal - you've just solved my problems in one post - Thank you!

 

Yeah! Peace on Earth! Well... total peace on earth will never be.... but we can at least try to keep this great boards peaceful.

/me offers Taluntain the Noble-price of Peace.

 

Me thinks it a good plan.

Yes, yes - I know I've done similar in the past, but recently things have escalated a bit. I think your list is complete and to the point.

 

Schralp, you just plain crack me up.

Other than that, I haven't really noticed the swearing or personal attacks. It may be I just don't read with enough "feeling", or I don't make it to the boards until after the sweepers have gone through.

Probably the latter. I really like the posts that BTA edits, and makes no [comment] that he's been through except for the standard [edited by]; just a little touch up and out.

 

Sorry, I just really had to put this link up for all those that might not have ever seen it before:

old thread
As soon as I saw ejsmith's comment about BTA's commenting style, this was all I could think of. Probably the best all time moderating I've ever seen. It might take you a while to figure it all out.

(Yes, I know it's off topic, but I just couldn't resist - besides, why deprive those who might not have seen it before?)

[ September 10, 2002, 17:27: Message edited by: Gnolyn Lochbreaker ]

 

Thank you Tal.

The degeneration of the board has been bothering me.

 

Thank you Tal. I for one was also getting sick of the profanity and childish antics going on in some of the threads. Hopefully people will read this and begin making more appropriate posts.

Once again, thank you.

 

Boards have changed yet again - for the better.

 

One of the strongest beliefs I have is crystallized by this quote:

"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"

I can always call myself a moron, in fact, I often do. I allow myself to laugh and learn from my mistakes and incapacities.

But when words are written with anger and venom, it becomes destructive. SP has always struck me as a place where we can agree to disagree in constructive manner.

Opinions will always differ. That the way it is, and honestly, that's the way I like it. It validates everyone's individuality. If two people agree on everything, then one of them is not essential.

But disagreeing can be done in a civil, constructive way. Belittling defeats the purpose of argument. What it does is closes the mind of the person you're trying to reach. In the end, it is the fool who tries to reason with an uncrossable chasm, and an even bigger fool is he if he created it by destroying the bridge.

Not everything on these boards are "serious stuff". But in those topics where serious discussion is needed, please exhibit it. "Wise men speak because they have something to say. Fools, because they have to say something."

This shouldn't have happened. Race and religion were topics that were once beautifully discussed, argued and defended in these boards. Even if emotions did occassionaly spill over, most would handle the situation in a classy way. I haven't been visiting as often, and I am in the dark as to what really gave birth to this post by Tal. So I am saddened, that painful words and choice insults by a few has deprived SP of what potentially could have been intelligent, insightful and hopefuly eye-opening discussion.

Attack the issue, not the person. And when I say attack I don't mean flame. I mean analyze, dissect and discuss it in an honest and civil manner. One can deal with delicate issues without assaulting another's personhood. If your purpose is to try to change a person's view, do it with consideration and compassion, and you will see that whether he agreed with you or not, in the end, you indeed changed him. How? He will realize that through your efforts, you have been sensitive to him and his values. At the very least he will hopefully become more open and more considerate because somehow, you have rubbed off on him.

Please folks, this is our community. We don't have to agree with each other all the time, but let's be considerate. I'm sure you didn't register on SP with the impression that everyone here will agree and bend to your views. Let's use this to learn and draw strength from each other's differences. What's the use in constantly hearing and trying to learn something you already know?

Remember: We all want to be heard and acknowledged. It can be done, only if we are human enough to hear and acknowledge other people too.

- eveningdrive -



[ September 11, 2002, 12:03: Message edited by: eveningdrive ]