Orrick the Mage

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Orrick, the mage who sells scrolls in Kuldahar, seems to imply that if you were more powerful he'd sell you better scrolls. He says something along the lines of I can't sell you everything I have for now. Then you say just show me what you have for now. Well, I'm at the end of the game and he still doesn't offer everything he implies.

Is there more to this, or is he just plain lying?

 

No, he's telling the truth.

His inventory that he sells does change over time. You will see that he does sell better stuff at certain points. Those points are changes in chapter. The first time his inventory changes is when you get to Dragon's eye. The next time is when you get to Dorn's deep. The last is when you get to Lower Dorn's Deep.

 

Oh ok, thanks.

 

I also suspected him of lying the first coupple of times...

 

Wait a minute, Lynadin may have a point there...I'm pretty much through with Lower Dorn's Deep. All I need to do that's left is to pick up Lew's Shield. Now, I've just returned to Kuldahar and Orrick is still giving that same speech about how I would hurt myself if he sold too high level spells...What's going on here?

 

Oh, that. That is just a standard dialogue script. He always says that right up to the end.

 

The triggers that cause Orrick to change his stock are chapter-based. I can't quite remember when this occurs, but I think it changes 3 times during the game.

Also note that he doesn't get new stuff added to the old stock - the old stock vanishes completely and is replaced by new items. Sometimes this results in items that you can no longer. For some of the mage scrolls in particular, the ONLY place you can get some is from Orrick. So, if you want something specific from him, be sure to get it before the end of a chapter, in case the next chapter changes the stock and the item vanishes.

 

When you hit chapter 3, his inventory changes. And after you complete the original story, his inventory changes again before you travel to Heart of Winter. I believe his inventory changes one more time after you have been to Lonelywood.

It's best to completely load out on whatever he has at the time, as it's already been mentioned. Especially items; the items will always be completely different.

 

@ej, How can you visit Kuldahar after completing the original story?

 

I believe Orricks inventory changes with chapters. First in Chapter 3 and the next times must be in chapter 5 and 6... But this is just my guess

 

Yes, I believe it does. Giving parties chance to upgrade everytime they return to town, though the dialogue stays the same, as he probably has more items, but won't sell them to anyone short of Elminster himself...

 

He does have more items, check out IWD2...

 

Don't know if anyone else has had this, but I experienced a bug once where I could proceed to the Hand but the game still considered me to be in chapter one. As such, Orrick still had his old stock and my mage had no access to more powerful spells, which was rather annoying. I remedied it by some shifting back and forth between areas, but it can happen. I have both HoW and TotLM installed, by the way.

 

I have to agree with most of you, Orrick's inventory changes by chapter, even after chapter 1...! But it changes áfter the movie cut scenes that represent the end of a chapter...

For instance: if you did everything you had to do to complete a chapter (also the talking to Arundel etc...) Orrick's inventory stays the same. If you then leave Kuldahar, you get the movie cut scenes and then you can go back to Kuldahar to profit from a new inventory at Orricks'...