POLL: Favourite Specialist Wizard

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What is your favourite specialist Wizard?

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This poll contains 1 question(s). 26 user(s) have voted.
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Poll Results: Favourite Specialist Wizard (26 votes.)

Favourite Specialist Wizard (Choose 1)
* Abjurer - 8% (2)
* Conjurer - 4% (1)
* Diviner - 19% (5)
* Enchanter - 12% (3)
* Evoker - 23% (6)
* Illusionist - 4% (1)
* Necromancer - 19% (5)
* Transmuter - 12% (3)

 

I love the fireball and the magic missile spells. The mordenkenen force missiles and ect. are also great. The fact that they are so quickly accessed i great also. Unfortunately, the loss of conjuration ect. sucks majorly. But, a single level in sorcerer and your back in the game.

Cheers

 

Many specialists get evocation. I like Diviner since the only school they lose is Conjuration. All other schools lose 2 schools. Lame. So pick up 1 level of socerer or even have a sorcerer to offset the losses.

The best spells are necromantic really. Poor gnomes dont get them...

 

I agree with what Khazraj wrote:

Note that the manual is wrong, a Diviner loses Conjuration spells, nothing else.

You should definitely have at least one sorcerer - shame on you otherwise; remember where you are! - and a cleric in your party and that gives enough conjuration to fill your needs.

 

I also prefer the diviner class for the same reasons mentioned above. However, I kinda disagree about the spells, evocation (chaos, feeblemind etc) and enchantment (magic missile, mordekainen's force missiles etc) are excellent too.
Again it's mainly a question of taste.

btw - I somewhere read about the exploit that, when you choose a sorcerer level for your diviner (or any other specialized mage), you gain access to all spell domains.

 

I wrote something like that, and that is what I meant. Is it an exploit?...

 

HMzz... I don't think adding a sorcerer class to your diviner will give him con. spells.The 2 classes just use a different spell books.And to have regular multi wiz X\sor X levels is lame.A wizard 2X will be much stronger.And how to manage the ability points since you need charisma for sorcerer?

PS:In the poll is missing pure wizard, or at least an option I DON'T LIKE SPECIALISTS.

[ November 17, 2002, 00:11: Message edited by: AlexGK ]

 

Those who vote for Evoker are ignorant.

A Diviner loses Conjuration spells.
An Evoker loses Conjuration and Divination spells.
Enough said...

 

Alex.

I assure you that by giving the wizard 1 level of sorcerer his Wizard Spell Book will be able to accept, write, scribe, and use All of the schools. He will no longer have any opposition school. And I don't mean have equal levels for sorcerer and wizard, I mean only 1 level of sorcerer. It works, I've done it.

It also means that since it works for all of the specialist schools, taking 1 level of sorcerer, then pick Transmuter, because they get a mini quest in the Underdark that only Transmuters can get.

BTW the poll was specifically about specialist wizards, and I'm not sure how that affects vanilla wizards...

I think vanilla wizards are far too lame as compared to sorcerers. Just my 2 cents...

 

Depends on - I have just made a nice Paladin of Mystra (you have to choose aasimar or you'll run out of ability points quickly), this combo is unreachable for a sorcerer, however, a pally-sorcerer would be a better combo - due to the pallies high chr

 

Take two sorcerers and forget about wizards. This gives you huge amounts of spells and it is unlikely you will have problems with spell choices.

I have never used a wizard in any of the IE games since the sorcerer bcame available. They are so much less hassle.

 

I like necromances, although they lose illusion spells (lack of transmutation spells isn't bad at all)

 

Will anyone of those who picked Evoker please step into the light and explain why?

@Monkey
Yes, sorcerers are better. Still, it can't hurt to have a discussion about best specialist wizard.

 

@Khazraj
I never tried this to tell the truth.But if it works it's just not fair.Cose if you take a bard\sorcerer and pick different spells with both you must have all the spells to chose from when casting.Anyway must try this myself.

My favorite wizard is the pure wizard - why would that be lame?Can't make a good thief\sorcerer anyway.

 

@AlexGK
You can make a good Rogue/Specialist Wizard (Diviner!). You still have a Sorcerer in your party to make up for the "lost" spells, don't you?

 

Wow - sorcerer to make up for the lost spells
He has alone only few spells per level to learn
OK, nevermind, all what I see now is that if all play now as sorcerer, (as somebody mentioned) there is a question about how usefull the most spells are.There are about 300+ spells in the game, but I doubt that someone is using more than 50-60 different spells.And IF they actually need some other it hasn't been memorized.
Why have a wizard - I found myself to think i actually use no more than 3 different spells per level and usually all the same as ever before.Hmmmm..... Simply my next party will have 2 sorcerers - using not much different spells and all other ones in the scroll case.Need it - out and cast. Anyway one gets lost when learned by a wizard.

[ November 17, 2002, 02:36: Message edited by: AlexGK ]

 

Alex,

you know wizards are not bad, but they have to find scrolls and scribe them, then memorise them...

Sorcerers do everything...automatically. They just know the spell picks.

I find that vanilla wizards have barely over half the total number of spells at the end of the game as compared to a sorcerer, and the fact is that a wizard only really ever uses those few spells like a sorcerer. At the end of the game a sorcerer knows maybe 5 spells per level, so how is that different from a wizard? He also casts what he wants when he wants and he never had to find a scroll. Also no opposition schools...

I think though that whenever I make a wizard I will take diviner.

 

I think Wizards have their own strengths over Sorcerers. Like since Wizards have higher intelligence values, I normally make them mo loremasters of the group. Also, I think I read somewhere that like fighters, Wizards get a bonus feat at the first level and every 2 levels after that.

Normally, the number of spell slots I get with my good old plain wizard doesn't really bother me because my fighters are able to take care of most of the action, and just a few spells are enough to finish the battle off with color. And if I run out of spells, that most probably it's time for me to rest anyway. *grin*

 

wizards get extra feat at 1-st level and every 5.
and you are right whitout wizard there will be no loremaster in the group...
How's possible for a sorcerer to have more spells per level to cast?They get their slots slower than wisards?!?

 

He must be referring to the lack of scrolls in the game which can result in a wizard knowing less spells than a sorcerer.