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Possibly a very dumb question - Irenicus's Dungeon

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Blackhawk, Oct 17, 2002.

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    [​IMG] Here is a very stupid question. In Irenicus's Dungeon, there is a room that is oddly beautiful. I haven't played Chapter 1 for quite some time. Is that room Bodhi's, Ellesime's or created by Irenicus is his desperate attempt to hold onto the past.
     
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    I believe that it was created by Irenicus for Elliseme but she never moved in. Or he possibly could have created a replica of her room. But then, the dryads said something about going through her things so it could be any one of those three. Definatly no Bohdi's though.
     
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    IIRC, Imoen will deduce that the room is for Irenicus' lost love (Ellesime), but that she now despises him. He mentions this lost love while he was performing experiments on Imoen.

    I don't think there was any intention of someone "moving in"; it, like the Dryads, were meant to instill emotion and help Irenicus remember what love is as well as remember his lost love

    [ October 17, 2002, 13:19: Message edited by: Spelladonna ]
     
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    Do you mean the room with the Helm of Balduran, or the "Mistress"'s room? The Balduran Room might be just a louge, except it has no TV and must rely on them olden days MagicScreen. The Mistress room might be meant for the Clones Jonny made?
     
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    Seems like Irenicus wanted to recreate the things he lost, especially the love for Ellessime.
    Few things here:
    The room was especially made for 'her', according to the concubines outside.
    There was the female clone in the dungeons to represent Ellessime.
    And the concubines trying to make Irenicus feel emotions.
    At the tree of life we noticed that it was all for nothing. The Gods (cant remember their names) had taken away everything from him.

    Thus, I decided to end his miserable life...

    Darn, everything I typed was allready said. Guess have to read more carefully. :o

    [ October 17, 2002, 13:32: Message edited by: Master of Nuhn ]
     
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    [​IMG] Thank you. That is what I thought - that the room was made by Irenicus as well as the clone as a desperate attempt to regain his love and all he lost.

    ... they should have described it better in the game.
     
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    And how do you think they should have described it better? Imoen explained that the room was for a "lost love"; the clone continually said that she was not "her". Short of them coming right out and saying that this is all for Ellesime, what could/should have been done better?
     
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    [​IMG] The Journal of Irenicus could have made reference to it - as could have Bodhi during the conversation before the final fight.
     
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    You know, If I were an insane, obsessed mage, I would create an automaton that looked exactly like she who I pined for.
     
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    I don't know... apparently Irenicus hasn't been able to make a Flesh Golem. :p ;) :D
     
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    Well, maybe Jonny should ask Jan and Keldorn about a fleshgolem... ;)

    People with a litle insight could have known Jon wanted something more then immortallity. Especially when you have whitnessed the conversation between Ellessime and Jon.
    So I don't think it had to be described better.
     
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    I would say that Ellesime actually DID move in at one point, I think... the Dryads say that "he has kept it as she had it" or similar.
     
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    What the hell would Ellesime be doing in Athkatla?! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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