Pure or Multiclass?

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i have a pure party i mean,, monk(old orders), barb, paly(asimar), wiz (necromancer), rouge and cleric(talos). no multi class of course.
should i make a multiclas chars? im really happy with my actual party , they arent weack, but multiclass could be better????

[ November 22, 2002, 05:32: Message edited by: Blackthorne TA ]

 

It is all pretty much personal choice and stats. If your character does not have good stats for a proposed class, then he will probably suck. However if you are happy with your party and they can handle any problem the game throws at you, then why do it?

I do it a lot, but only in characters that I have planned to be multiclass before starting them. I won't do it if I am not planning such.

 

Pure class is great for most characters.
There is at least one obvious exceptions:
- Give four Fighter levels to all your "fighting" characters, since this way you can get Weapon Specialization and Maximized Attacks.
In your case that'd be Fig-4/Barb and Fig-4/Pal.
Also I think you should multiclass your Rogue, perhaps with four Fighter levels, but maybe with something else.

[ November 27, 2002, 14:42: Message edited by: Earl Grey ]

 

the only class that you don't multiclass is monk because this will destroy the unarmed attack bonus. other than this do what ever you like with your party and learn from experience.

by the way, may i suggest you to multiclass you rouge to 4 lvl fighter or more, this will only you rogue stronger at fighting as fighter gains more feat and has weapon specialization. the same goes for barbarian. also, if you are willing to take the xp penalty (if your favored class is necromancer or sorcerer then you don't), multiclass your necromancer to a level of sorcerer. that way you can break the spell restriction and cast illusions. of course this is an exploitation not a strategy.

 

Stick with pure. Although I have never actually multiclassed, I just don't like the concept. I don't want anyone saying that I am crazy, I just don't do it, OK?

 

yeah, I think that pure classes are better too. However, the only class that I do multi-class would be the Rouge. normally have him to be a half-rouge, half ranger, because there really isn't much point having a super high level rouge in the game. And rangers add a good amoung of extra attack points to the character's attack.

 

I like the concept of Multi classing in IWD2. ITs alot smoother and alor more logical. IT really depends on your point of view. You should only multi after thinking thoroughly on it.

Cheers.

 

My paladin is a human and I took him to rouge 3 1st, then F2 and then Paladin all out. Now my sorcerer makes him invis and he struts into the middle of the bad guys. He sneak attacks and once everyone bumrushes him, my sor and wiz unleash the fireballs... with his cha bonus to saves and improved evasion he usually comes out on top. I took him to R3 b/c I want him to get F4 for specialization and the rest Paladin of Helm. He would have been better as an assimar for the resistances if the lvl penalty is worth it.

 

I didn't know rogues could be Lawful Good.

 

Well, at least they can be LG in IWD 2. I have no idea about the P&P restrictions.

 

In 3e DnD PnP there is very little in the way of alignment restrictions. Paladins have to be lawful good or lawful neutral i think. Im not sure if there any other restrictions. IWD2 doesnt quite follow these rules though (i havent looked at the rule book for a while so I might be wrong)

 

A rouge can be LG, but then again(In paper D&D) he cannot use his skill in a no good way, but he is a great scout/spy/agent that can get almoast everywere.

And when playing sorcerer its realy handy to give him/her a level in paladin, You'll use your char mod even more, and that realy helps whit the sorcerers bad saves(mine got +6 at lvl 7/pal 1)

 

It is pretty much personal choice - actually a pure class usually is very powerful and effective in what he does. However, adding a few more levels greatly increases versatility - on the price of power availble.

Give an intelligent fighter a few rogue levels to boost his conversational abilities. Or give a nimble ghostwise halfling barbarian a few rogue levels to improve his sneaking (IMO better than ranger levels - though that has advantages of its own). Add a few fighter levels to a rogue to add a few feats and combat power. Give a specialist mage the renowned sorcerer level or start as a fighter and switch over to a monk after reaching lvl-4 ...

The possibilities are infinite - either single or multiclassed you'll have a good char.

[ November 26, 2002, 09:36: Message edited by: Ragusa ]

 

PnP DM here; rogues can be and do what they want with no restrictions whatsoever. Paladins have to be LG (not LN) and if they do something like hiding, sneak attacking (unless you have a damn good reason for every single attack) or the like they loose all paladin powers. Bards and Barbarians have to be of chaotic alignment (maybe just non-lawful for bards). Druids have to be of one aspect of neutral alignment (NG, LN, N, CN, NE). Monks have to be lawful.

 

@Ragusa
What is the idea behind doing a Fig-4/Monk? Of what use are the fighter levels?

 

I used the extra fighter levels for a few more feats, hitpoints and improved bab purposes, I always found the monk a little weak there.

 

IMHO the Fighter levels hurt more than they help here.

Extra HP's
That's on average 1HP extra per Fighter level. So four Fighter levels gives you 4 extra HP's.

Improved BAB
You get +1 BAB for taking those four Fighter levels.

Example 1
Fig-4/Mon-11 BAB=12
Mon-15 BAB=11

Example 2
Fig-4/Mon-26 BAB=23
Mon-30 BAB=22

More Feats
Extra Feats at 2nd and 4th level. Extra Feats are always useful, but Weapon Specialization, which is usually the reason to get four Fighter levels, is not that great for a Monk since a Monk uses bare hands.

What do you give up?
All the many special Monk abilities are pushed back four levels. That has to hurt!
To give an impression of what this means here are the abilities a Fig-4/Monk-11 lacks (around the end of Normal with a 6-character party) as compared with a Monk-15:
- Damage increase to d12 (from d10)
- Movement increase by 2+2 units
- Diamond Soul (= Spell Resistance)
- +2 Ki Strike
- Quivering Palm
- +1 to AC

 

Good point. I was inconsequent to give a monk-to-be 4 fighter levels - even more since I usually used monks as supoort characters (monk-rogue/ monk-sorcerer). Very interesting.