Random opinions on the half-orc

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A quick question: Do you think that perhaps the only reason you are allowed to select a half-orc as your PC is for the powergamers of the world? I mean, half-orcs are obviously not that prevalent in Faerun.

Humans and orcs hate each other, and are frequently at war. That's not a relationship that produces a whole lot of mixed children.

Obviously, there are no half-orc cities anywhere, just as there are no half-elf cities either. By the way, how come there are half-orcs and half-elves, but no other mixed races allowed?

Finally, to my knowledge there is one or possibly two half-orcs in the entire BG series. In BGI, Mulahey, in the Naskel mines was definitely a half-orc. The only other one I can even think of - and I'm not even sure on this one - is Gromnir Il-Khan from ToB. However, I think he might be just orc and not half-orc.

Am I missing others? I can't think of anymore.

 

Gromnir was a half-orc

But if you think about it - Half Orcs will probably inherit the bloodlust of their orcish parent and would like killing so may worship Bhall. Bhall may also want this trait in his children so they are more inclined to kill each other. So he might have... well... had ikkle half-orc bhallings. I mean - there's a Fire Giant one!

 

half orc is a powergamer race. or does anyone here remember any situation where there is some halforc-related roleplaying or even dialogue !?

 

I think there is with Gromnir

 

I have only one thing to say about halforcs: I HATE THEM!
If they must take things from 3. Edition in bg2, they should do it right. Halforcs in bg have +1 str +1 con and -2 int IIRC. In 3. Edition ( or at least in iwd2) they have +2 str, -2 int & -2 ch, and i think so it's okay, but the halforc in bg2 is really unbalanced.
For example, take the dwarwes: Before Halforcs, they were the best for hand to hand combat, +1 con was great and -1 dex was ok. But BOOM here comes the halforcs and kick them. Dwarves are no good clerics or thieves, and so that halforc made my favorite race worse, and so i hate them.

 

LOL

 

dwarves still got superior saving throws, especially with high CON. i agree this isn't much but a dwarf with 18/00 STR and 19 CON is not THAT bad to force you to play half-cheese ... err spoil-orcs ... hmpf what are they called again ?

 

I didn't say they are bad now. I just said that the halforc does simply not fit. Because of rpg reasons i still play dwarves, but a new player who has no idea about rpg would surely powerplay and never give that race a chance, he would only see:
Halforc
STR 19
DEX 18
CON 19
Dwarf
STR 18/xx
DEX 17
CON 19

In other class they aren't so good like as fighters or barbarians, and so a beginner whould never take a dwarf for any charakter, and in a good ballanced game that shouldn't be like that.

 

i had always thought that saving throws was determined by WIS and not CON :S

 

I dont think saving throws are determined by your WIS i think a few are determined by CON (save against poison etc) not sure on the rest

 

The whole idea of a half orc as a pc is weird. I mean, if he's a half orc that means that Bhaal changed himself into an orc and then went to find him a human woman. Why would he do that ? As for roleplaying or powergaming, it's definitely powergaming.

 

Maybe Bhaal had some fetishes, and turned into a human to enjoy the nastiness of a female orc?!

 

Deathmage, stop your disgusting fantasies!

But of course you are right why should bhaal have s** with an orc? If I remember that story from one of the books from bg2 right he was a human. That is as sick like with a firegiant or that chinchila in front of the firegiant temple.

Also it's not logic, why can i play a halforc but no dragon? Bhaal also made it with one. Ok, that would be really unbalanced then, but the halforc is unbalanced, too.

 

He was a human god but he can change his appearance. Right? Still, freaky stuff...

 

Its a bit but,

If he was a human god, how can you choose to be a pure elf, dwarf, gnome and halfling???

Wouldn't it have to be two elves to produce a pure elf, and so on?

 

Well, as I just said, he can change his appearance. So he could just change himself into a pure elf and well....you know. Still doesn't solve the question of half orcs and half elves but hey, maybe he felt really kinky . Who knows?

 

I'm not thinking of anything dirty, but maybe he was in a orc form when he was doing "that thing" with a human. he might have wanted to feel the fear of the human....I mean, no human(woman) will want to do "that thing" with a orc right? The main char's mother was his priest, but he is still a god and can do as he like...
Same goes for the elven(woman), just that Bhaal was in a human form...

 

Yuo should ask Mystra, I guess she knows...

 

dwarves, gnomes and halflings get a +5 bonus for all saving throws with CON 19.

 

Dieby steel. Don't you hate the way the BG2 made dwarves -1 dex when the PH (2nd Ed) says +1 con and -1 Cha for dwarves. (?)

Anyway, halforcs are probably only good for evil fighters or assassins. They are from even 1st edition so I can't see why they should be out of BG2. I've never played one, nor a halfling. Just not my scene.

Besides 3E IWD2 makes them better, especially as bards or sorcerers...