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Ring of Wizardy Change?

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Fly2tHeSkY, Sep 28, 2006.

  1. Fly2tHeSkY

    Fly2tHeSkY Southern Comfort Veteran

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    I was just wondering as to why the makers decided to change the Ring Of Wizardry's abilities.

    In the original the ring would double the number of 1st level spells that a wizard could learn, although it was changed to allow the wizard to learn one spell from 3rd through to 5th (or was it 5th through to 7th?). Either way I was reading one of the older D&D books and apparently these rings used to double the amount of spells from 1st THROUGH to THIRD LEVEL!!!

    Why don't they bring those rings into the game!
     
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    Felinoid Who did the what now?

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    More like they could double first through third level; only 1 out of every 25 rings had that power. A full half of the rings worked exactly like the BG1 version, and you should be glad they even included one in the first place. :p

    As for the change, that's probably because of the mechanics of the spellbook in the game. When you get up to very high levels, you'll already have 7 or so 1st-level spells, and with a doubling effect, that would put you at 14 or more. But the spellbook can only show 10 or 12, so the others would be off the page, and thus a little harder to change (or even see what they are; you'd have to remember what they were). So they made it give you extra, but not double, higher level spells. Considering the usefulness of first level spells in the sequel, I'd say we got a bargain.
     
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    Fly2tHeSkY Southern Comfort Veteran

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    Hehe I guess you're right there Fel. I was just looking through the Villian's Lorebook at the Red Wizards and I was shocked to see the amount of spells they could cast! Their class, as well being a specialist, (+ being a high ruler) enabled 8 spells per level! One of them had the super duper ring of wizardry which meant 16, THAT'S RIGHT!!! 16 spells per level! I was just like daaaamn!

    What was it changed to in BGII btw? 1 extra level 3rd, 4th and 5th spell?
     
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    Colthrun Walk first in the forest and last in the bog Veteran

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    That explains Edwin, then.
     
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    Fly2tHeSkY Southern Comfort Veteran

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    Not exactly. From that manual it said that the Zulkir (Ruling Red Wizard of a particular spell school) was given 8 spells per level. Normally a mage would get 5 per level.

    A Zulkir would receive extras for;

    *Being a specialist
    *Taking the Red Wizard 'kit'
    *Being a Zulkir

    That would mean Edwin would only get a total of 7, but he also gets 8 does he not?

    Also I would like to know how many of these rings people think existed in realms, IF that's not too much trouble :D
     
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    Felinoid Who did the what now?

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    5th through 7th, actually. Combine it with the Ring of Acuity (2 second, 1 third, 1 fourth), and you end up with bonus spells at most levels.
     
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    Item Upgrade allows you to combine Ring of Wizardry&Acuity and a bonus ring of protection to melt into powerful and stylish Sorcerian ring! :thumb:
     
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    Fly2tHeSkY Southern Comfort Veteran

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    Oh and what does that do :p
     
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    It basically confers the combinated bonuses of Rings of Wizardry, Acuity, and ring of protection+1, give or take a spell slot. :shake: It is cool!
     
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    In the old games where I'm from, the Ring of Wizardry doubles the number of 5th level spells. The dumb thing was, your spell list was limited to cloud kill (crap - only insta-kills low hit dice monsters), cone of cold (decent as usual for damage, but not party-friendly which means your mage cannot stand behind your fighters), feeblemind (who uses that? Just magic missile the enemy mage), and hold monster (can make helpless up to 4 monsters). So I'd memorize 8 hold monster and 2 cone of cold... joy?
     
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    Felinoid Who did the what now?

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    That is one of the possibilities, yes (3%, BTW).
     
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    There is such a ring in IWD, HoW, which doubles 5th lvl spells:which is a very powerful item. Its name is not Ring of Wizardry though, it has the name of the mage who invented it IIRC.
     
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