Some strange things

Remove all ads!

1. Elves are a creative race, the speak in melodic tones and have clever songs and poetry, so shouldn't they be able to be bards??

2. Nalia and Imoen are both thieves dual classed into mages, but isn't it a little odd that they don't have the same clothes. (Or is Imoen just like Irenicus and Elminster that she wares clothes unlike normal NPC's)

3. Mazzy is a halfling and the discription says that halflings are short and have round faces. But on her portrait, Mazzy doesn't have a round face and she doesn't look like halflings from BG1 (Alora & Montaron, who do have round faces and pointy ears!!)
Mazzy looks more like a human.

Now don't these things seem a little strange to you?

 

Nope.

 

1. Elves have a lot of pride.. they wont reduce themselves to being buskers..

2. maybe its the result of soemting they wear.. like the girdle that Imoen wears that cant be removed.. maybe Elminster also has one that allows him to live for God knows how long

3. I think its easier to like Mazzy that way...

 

Have you noticed that Mazzy's portrait makes her seem very beutiful.
Plus i find it weird that only humans can be paladins and that Half Orcs can be theives.
just does not seem right as far as i am concerned.

 

Elven bards are multiclassed Thief/Mages

 

Here's a crazy suggestion from a crazy person. I think that bards of every race should be from every race, but bard song has bonuses for people the same race as the bard and penalties for people of opposing races. eg Dwarves find elven poetry too complicated and annoying, and elves don't care too much for songs that go "Gold, Gold, Gold, Gold ..."

 

Nice Idea. Realistic anyway.. But Should we really make the Bard suffer a blow on his efficiency. Its not like he is the most popular class around. Instead one could make additional bonusses to those of same race as the bard. Not penalties to others.

 

RE Mazzy:
plenty of ppl here have read the hobbit/LOTR an have seen hobbits in their minds.. how many ppl have seen the LOTR movie trailer...where the hobbits, except 4 bilbo, look nothing like hobbits...they just look like little ppl. mazzy, hard as nails as she is, does look disturbingly pretty on her portrait...

 

Mazzy is a halfling, not a hobbit.

 

but halflings are the same things as hobbits... short, plump, have hair on thier feet...

 

Personally i think in the movie that all of them APART from frodo look realistic.
He just looks like yet another american actor.......which he is.

 

LOL @ "just another american actor"
Sean astin(sp?), the guy playing Sam is an american actor too, he looks perfect.
And, if you've read LOTR, halfings are small humans, with curly hair bright eyes, generally floral faces, somewhat rotund, and of course the big furry feet.

Haflings ARE hobbits. heck, tsr got sued for calling them that and had to use hafling, which while used in lotr isn't copy writed.

Besides, i don't know about anyone else, but I always pictured frodo as less robust than the general hobbit, sort of a sickly guy who spent a bit too much time inside.

sorry for wandering off topic there, mazzy looks believable to me, kinda. once again, she's not SUPPOSED to be the "typical" hafling.

 

I can tell you one thing now:
I have respect for american actors as most of them are pretty good. (Dustan Hoffman being my favorite actor of all time)
But Tolkein was born in South Africa and spent nearly all his life in Britain. He would not have envisioned the characters to have been American!
Now then too my point. Lets face it, the american accent is lovely but it is in no way sutible for a fantasy story. Russian or British work the best and that is just fact.
So too my real point:
If Frodo and Sam start speaking in American accents i will personally gouge mr jacksons eyes out

No offense meant to Americans but lets face the facts ok?

 

As most films get dubbed, who cares?

This is a good thing about living in a small country. We use sublines instead of dubbing. This means, that in american films, people speak english, in german films etc.

Just imagine watching Das Boot in english!

(Yes, I do now it has been made in an english version. One of my friends got it, but it's just not the same!)

 

The reason why american accents dont work in fantasy, is the setting is usually middle ages period. Hence the americas didnt exist yet

 

Uhm, Darien, it seems, that even the moderaters are unable to post pictures.

 

Actually, Halflings are not Hobbits, and they no longer are depicted that way. In the new PHB, they are rather slender, actually, more propotioned like a human than a hobbit. Here's a pic: http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=view_photo&ID_Community=TheFacesofDarien&ID_Topic=16&ID_Message=284

Yeah, I'm not trying to post the pic, just to fix the link. It's too damn long, and I don't know how to set it up the way I want. Oh well. Here it is anyway.

 

At the risk of getting yelled at for turning this into a LOTR discussion...
They've created entirely new accents for most of the characters in the LOTR films. There were three actual linguists in addition the the voice coaches. So I kinda doubt it will be much of a problem.
I Agree completly. American accents would ruin it. But elrond sounding like a cockney would be just as bad, eh govnah?
And just because they stopped drawing haflings that way doesn't change what they are c'mon, stoors instead of stouts?
And we don't ALL have to pay attention to obvious marketing ploys by wizards of the coast either. The people who brought you cardboard crack are not your friends!!

 

I don't get it. In Tolkiens Story, Halflings and Hobbits are the same. Halfling is the name in the common Language and Hobbits is how the Halflings called themselves.