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Speaking of liches

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Sydax, Jun 16, 2003.

  1. Sydax Gems: 19/31
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    [​IMG] I was reading a post in the BG2 forum and since I've got ToB and some mods (like Tactics) I guess I have to make this question here.
    Like I said, somo things have changed since the Tactics, my question is: liches, do they have extra powers? how it is that they can shoot you with spells like they have a "machin-spell-gun"?
    I wathed the descriptions and whenever you do the true sight from Carsomir you know how long the turn is and for every "Char-name: true sight" you see almost 15 spell trigered by the lich. How many spells can cast a lich in a turn or a round?
    Maybe I have yet to learn what is a turn or a round and stuff like that.
     
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    someone called? :D

    liches have spell triggers, that means many spells memorized in a single spell. For instance they'd likely have chain contingency that'd be able to fire off 3 spells in 1 spells time. Could be stone skin, haste, and whatever.. ;)
    then next round another contingency etc etc, keeping it up till they start blasting off offensive stuff at you. With haste on the first round they'd cast the remaining contingencies and spells faster than normal and thus it may seem like "magic" that they have all them spells blasted off at once.

    There's some of the spell chains that you can conditions, so saying facing an enemy would trigger a 3 spell chain, and on your first action you cast another 3 spell chain, making 6 spells for a single round.

    Though I most admit I don't know if there is a special lich thing giving benefits. I could imagine a form of spell casting time reduction for being a lich is in place as they do indeed cast quick.
     
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    [​IMG] Ok, I know all about contingency and stuff like that, also know that you can stack ONLY 3 spells in it, so, did you ever face the "new" liches, you could see that some of them stack even 6 spells!By now, in other post, I just know that programers of the mod cheated.
    But anyway, other question, can sorcerers cast spell more quick than mages?
     
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    they can yes, and cast faster the more levels they gain, although with that new improved alacrity (sp?) it doesn't matter much.
     
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    In the tactics mod, they don't actually cheat. They've got a chain contigency, spell trigger, spell sequencer, and minor spell sequencer. This allows them to do what you're describing. (You can do it yourself.)
     
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    That is cheating. You're only allowed one, trigger type spell.
     
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    No, you can have a minor sequencer, contingency, spell sequencer, spell trigger, and Chain contingency. Aerie does it all the time. It's kind of cool! Put the Robe of Vecna on her, have her cast Improved alacricity, and let it rock and roll!
     
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    One thing that buggs me is whena lich uses something IIRC called Tatoo of Power that fires off 4-5 spells at the same time. I don't like it because if they can use it, how come no one else can? Plus, the spells usually cast are:
    Protection from Magical Weapons
    Spell Truning
    Mislead
    Greater Mantle
    Globe of Invunlerability(SP) :bang: :rolling:
     
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    Liches are fun imo, more fun to fight than mortal spell casters anyway. And liches seem to have a permanent improved altric as far as i can tell, they keep hurtling abis at my 100% magic res character during time stops all the time.
     
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    The item Lich01.itm gives them a permanent improved alacrity.

    Although, they shouldn't be using Abi on a character with 100% MR (How the heck did you get that, anyway?). Guess someone should tell Weimer about that.
     
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    Hehe, cloak of balduran, robe of vecna, amulet of power, holy avenger and one more thing I cant remember. F/M/T is to fun.
     
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    [​IMG] Ja! you didn't see this one: he can cast you abi dalzim and can kill you even if you have any of those items AND magical protection, BUT, you do the same to him you see that he gets NOTHING, and if you see spell description you see that IT CAN do damage NO MATTER magical resistances...
     
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