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Sticking to your char

Discussion in 'Baldur's Gate (Classic)' started by Tifan, Dec 8, 2007.

  1. Tifan Gems: 1/31
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    I bought BG2 a several years back and I played it a million times but only one time I finnished it.
    Then I played half of TOB expansion which was amazing!!!

    I got BG1 just a year ago or something like that and I played it alot but never got very far because of same problem I have with BG2 and TOB and all these kind of games.

    I don't play BG series for the hack n slash.
    I play it for the great RP and storyline.

    So my problem is I can't make up my mind about what charactar I want my protagonist to be.
    Most likely something evil or neautral.
    Evil might not be good because I would miss out on alot of quests because I like RP.
    That's why I think neautral might be better.
    Good is something I don't like being but it would be easiest.

    I want evil party members later on aswell like edwin as an example.

    Then what class my Protagonist should be?
    Mage/fighter
    fighter
    mage

    One of the above are most likely choices.

    I think I will try going through BG -> tales of swordcost -> BG2 -> TOB but I must be 100% sure how and what I will play this time because it gives me big headaches of starting over 100 times.

    Please help me decide on this
     
  2. Nakia

    Nakia The night is mine Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    The argument regarding playing evil is an old one so I will only say that my favorite game played through ToB was my evil character. I played 'smart evil' and it worked fine. My character was a half-elf F/T. You could also play True Neutral I think.

    Do you love magic? Casting those fire bombs all over the place? Or do you prefer to bash your enemies to death? You have a lot of choices as to companions so it is easy to compensate for your MC's weaknesses. Further, IMO, you must take Edwin along with you at some point. With a little buffing Korgan is a one man army.

    I think the most important thing is to choose a character that you are comfortable playing.
     
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    Why not make a Fighter/Mage? :)
     
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    Although thieves abound in BG1 (Montaron is excellent in an evil party), they are lacking in SoA. I'm with Nakia on this, I have found the most fun playing a F/T or assassin -- make it a half-orc for atmosphere.
     
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    Bah! You have Imoen, she's all the thief you'll need. A single class specialist mage (or a sorcerer) is a great character to play with. Other than that, a cleric/mage is fun to play. Not to mention that it opens the party to more varied NPC options.
     
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    hmm thanks for the answers guys.

    Love it the way you said that.

    I'm afraid I want both of those..
    I guess fighter/mage would be best choice but from a RP perspective I don't see that as being both a Powerful wizard and Agile Warrior.

    I see fighter/mage more like a Agile Warrior who has a few magic tricks up his sleeves.
    Even tho he can be almost as great as a normal mage I can't see him like that from the rp perspective and to me BG is all about the RP feeling.

    But I think I will go for fighter/mage it's pretty cool...

    Not gonna be anything elf related because I think elfs are a bit on the queer side hehehe :D
    Not halfing or dwarf because their short..
    Not half orc because they are unintelligent.
    So Human would be best for me but snap! they can't be fighter/mage iirc..
    I guess i'll just have to be a half elf then..

    What do you think the best evil party in BG1 would be?
    1. Montaron
    2. Xzar (montarons buddy, hope I didnt mix the name up with that elf wizard)
    3. Edwin
    4. Viconia?
    5. That evil dwarf?
     
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    For evil party in BG1 I suggest Viconia, Shar-Teel, Edwin, Kagain and Imoen (for RP-ing purposes or you could add Safana, she's neutral, fits in an evil party).
     
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    I'm sure you'll be happy with your F/M, those are lots of fun to play for sure. And you are correct in th assumption that they're more finesse warriors than melee-mages; seeing as you'll have fewer spell slots to juggle with you want to focus on those defensive spells like mirror image and the likes. Let Edwin deal with bombarding your enemies from afar :).

    I'll second Redrake's suggestion, there's no need for two pure class mages in BG1 as they're far form the powerhouses that they are in BG2. I'd also take Safane over Imoen for RP reasons.
     
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    Well, if he wants a completely evil party, for a thief he can go for Tiax, but there's a long way until he reaches Baldur's Gate. Safana or Imoen would do.
     
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    Shar-Teel makes an excellent thief. Get her quickly and dual her to thief and you have the most potent backstabber in the game.

    Kagain is the best tank in BG1. You can get him early.

    I prefer Xzar to Edwin, just for his dialog. But two mages (and two thieves) are better than one. Xzar can dual to cleric, I believe.
     
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    Shar-Teel is a waste as a thief. Too many thieves in the game. She's great as a fighter. Give her a good armor, a good shield and Varscona and she's going to be amazing. She does have low Con, but in BG1 her high AC is a lot more important.
     
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    And I think she's a waste as a fighter, not many hit points due to the low con. She dies quickly and often. There are a lot of thieves in the game, but in order to cover all the bases you need two (one with pickpocket and stealth, one with open locks and find traps).

    The best fighter in the game is one you make. All the NPC fighters have significant flaws.
     
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    Yes, that's one of the main issues with BG. A lot of the NPC's are, if anything, under-powered especially the fighter types. Minsc is probably the best stat-wise, but he doesn't start with bow proficiencies, which is crucial in BG, so it's a few levels before he actually becomes useful.
     
  14. Nakia

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    Since I play as an half-elf, fighter/thief I usually dual Imoen to mage as soon as possible. I keep her in the party for RPing purposes. Just seems right to me. I get Montaron and Xzar but may not keep them. I get the evil dwarf, Koron(?). In BG orginal I switch NPC's a lot.
     
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    As I've said, AC is way more important in BG1. The enemy has low level (like yours) and is bad at THAC0. A character with low AC fares better than Korgan for example, who has 20 Con. He does have more HPs but he gets hit more often. In my games, Shar-Teel does not die often and she's the best tank available, with the exception of Minsc.
     
  16. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

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    I know I'm a little late to the party here, but may I humbly submit the option of a bard? You can turn him/her into a blade in BGII, and you'll have yourself one heck of a fighter who can cast a decent array of spells.

    I'd actually vote for Khalid as the most useful - excellent dexterity and constitution, starts with one point in bows, and as a pure fighter can get up to four *s in large swords which provides a huge bonus. By the time you get him the gauntlets of ogre strength, he's a one man wrecking crew.

    With Minsc, since so many characters have bow proficiency, I usually go for either throwing axes, throwing daggers, or (most often) darts, as you find a ton of them, and they allow you to equip a shield and quickly switch back and forth between missile and melee combat (equiping a bow requires you to forego the use of a shield, even if you are using a one-handed melee weapon). Sadly, since you're playing evil, neither Minsc or Khalid is a satisfactory option.

    I agree with that, but keep in mind that fairly early on in BG1 you can get the gauntlets of dexterity, which raises the dexterity of anyone you want to 18. Kagain looks a lot more impressive with a 20 in constitution and 18 dexterity. It would only become a problem if you needed to raise two different character's dexterity.

    If you take Shar-Teel, I'd purchase the Claw of Kazgoroth (sp) from High Hedge. The -2 to constituion doesn't do anything to her, as she starts with a 9 in constitution (no bonus or penalty) and with it equipped she has a 7 in constitution (again no bonus or penalty). It's a smart purchase for any party if you have a character with a constitution somewhere between 9 and 14 (and almost every party has at least one such character).

    Anyway, my recommended party (regardless of if you play a bard or a fighter-mage), and keep in mind that I prefer brawn over brains in BG1:

    Kagain, Shar-Teel, Edwin, Montoron, Viconia

    If you don't mind dual-classing, Xzar can be dual classed to a cleric and sub in for Viconia. If you don't want to do that, then Xzar will have to meet with some unfortunate "accident" if you want Monty, but don't want Xzar.
     
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    I must admit I never used Xzar as a DC cleric. I usually don't take him in my parties, mostly because I don't like that runt, Montaron. As Xzar says, he's so "aggravating".:)
     
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    wow! I completely forgot about bard and later on blade :eek:
    This will be fun :happy::thumb:

    Very good party suggestion too.

    I think i'm all set to start my journey :cool:
     
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    I'll just add one more opinion to the mix: you like to cast and bash? The Cleric/Ranger multi-class is the way to go. You'll get to cast druid & cleric spells, wear armor and have access to some of the best weapons in the game.
     
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    Cleric/Ranger is wicked crazy.

    You can't use +3 scimitars though ;)
     
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