The "Everyone is Represented" party?

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Thinking of creating a party with no 2 races alike - just for a fun play experience. Here's what I'm thinking, for balance and interestingness. Yes, I said interestingness.

Human - Paladin (probably Chavalier)
Dwarf - Fighter (either a Berserker or Barbarian)
Elf - Sorcerer (female)
Halfling - Thief (either Assasin or Fighter/thief)
Gnome - Cleric (either Fighter/Cleric or Priest of Helm)
Half-elf - Druid

This is what I'm playing with at the moment. I may decide to swap out the Half-elf for a Half-orc somewhere, but this is just an idea. I'm also considering dumping the Paladin for a Monk. The funkier, the better.

Please post any suggestions or combos of your own. Remember, no 2 races alike. For added flavah, try to keep the sexes even as well (ie 3 boys, 3 girls).

 

That's a way I tend to make my parties in games where there's no NPCs. So let's try one in BG2:

Female Human Fighter/Mage, using mostly bows and spells.

Male Half-Orc Berserker, using a(n) *insert weapon here* to hack stuff apart.

Female Elven weakling (mage-type), throwing spells at the bad guys.

Female Halfling Fighter/Thief, using katanas, scimitars, and darts. (Ninja Style )

Male Gnome Cleric of someone, hiding behind his shield while healing the others.

Male Dwarven Fighter/Cleric, beating enemies to bloody pulps with a hammer, and whatever the second cleric does.

 

As usual, I don't really know what I'm talking about. However, for something different, you might consider making your gnome a cleric/thief (I've never tried one, and I gather they aren't all that popular), and replacing the halfling with a half-orc something (barbarian, maybe, if your dwarf is a berserker).

 

With gnomes, I'd focus on the unique multiclassed illusionist allowance together with 19 INT.

Human: Paladin. Guess the name.

Half-elf: Bard. Just seems right. Female.

Elf: Fighter/Cleric. Female. NOT an archer type. I'm thinking about the Severed Hand in IWD1 ATM, that's why the class. A nice alternative is oldschool elven fighter/mage female, max dex.

Halfling: Rogue. Sorry, those guys are born rogues. Yeah, call me racist. Female, sure.

Dwarf: Fighter. Male. Just fighter.

Gnome: Illusionist. Male.

 

@ Splunge

That is good thinking, but I've tried the cleric/thief before, and I'd have to say, in my experience, it's just a total pain in the ass. And that's just on the play side. On the logistical side, it's probably the most ridiculous character I can think of. Picture this: a pious religious devout, doing his god's service while also quite skilled at picking locks and robbing people. If you get on his bad side, he may sneak up on you and stab you in the back wiiiiiiiith....a blunt object. Ooooo, scary.

I'm sure some people see the cleric/thief differently, especially in PnP. But in this game, he just blows.

@ Chev

I agree. It's kind of a waste not to take advantage of what amounts to probably the Gnome's best feature. So mixing in an Illusionist sounds like a must. Ever done an Illusionist/Fighter?

Racist!

 

chev: Is Elf Cleric/Fighter a legal 2e combo?

 

Klorox: Why don't you go into the menu go to Black Isle, try the game and find out for yourself? much quicker then waiting for a reply.

 

@casey: Dont remember a gem by your name

People here have been playing too much 3E, else my game aint up-to-date.
Humans have a stranglehold on being Paladins or Monks and Half-Elves are the only other race who can be bards.
And Klorox is right.
My team:

Human Inquisitor (aka Keldron)
Half-Elf Skald
Half-Orc Barbarian
Dwarf Fighter/Cleric
Gnome Illusionist/Thief (aka Jan)
Elf Sorcerer

The halforc may be a beserker if Im to take GM.

 

What do you mean a cleric/thief to be a non-logical character? What about Mask, Cyric, Talona and Beshabba? I won't even start on the other races' gods of thievry and the black arts.

Whats more don't confuse backstab's name with its purpouse. It's not about the stabbing, its about hitting an enemy who is unsuspecting. You can do this with a club or a quarterstaff. Sure a knife to the back can be damaging, but so can a well lined up blow to the head with a big stick, or a blow to the groin with a large blunt object.

If you don't respect Cleric/Theieves then read Shadow's Witness and the Erevis Cale Trilogy.

 

The only changes I would make to your party would be to make the gnome a cleric/illusionist, and make the halfling a fighter/thief.

I've played a cleric/illusionist before, and it's a fun ride as the PC. You get the bonus to intelligence, but you lose a point in wisdom. The difference between a 17 and an 18 in wisdom is one additional 3rd level spell, so no big deal. However, there is a big difference between an 18 and 19 intelligence in success rate of scribing a scroll - I think it's 85% at 18, but 95% at 19.

The halfling I recommended a fighter/thief just because once your thief hits level 12 or so, the extra points are kind of superfulous anyway, and this way here he'll be more useful when not using his thief skills. Give him two proficiency points in slings and take advantage of the halfling's natural bonus when using that weapon.

EDIT: One more thing - the cleric/thief gets a bad rap IMO. It takes advantaged of the two most favorable XP tables in the game, in terms of average XP, per level. The thief has the most favorable advancement table, while the cleric is tied for second most favorable advancement table, along with the monk:

For those who care here's the breakdown (includes all kits where applicable):

Thief
Cleric/Monk
Fighter/Barbarian
Paladin/Ranger
Mage/Sorcerer

In TOB, both the cleric and thief, when playing a single class, can reach the maximum of 40th level allowed by the game. Even when multi-classed, they can still get very high, although naturally, neither of them can reach 40th level.

[ January 20, 2004, 15:34: Message edited by: Aldeth the Foppish Idiot ]

 

@ Abomination

I know that - I was being Mr. Funnypants. I don't like cleric theives in the Infinity games, and think they're a pain in the ass to play. But I don't doubt their validity in PnP, or books I've never read, or others' tastes, which is why I said "I'm sure some people see the cleric/thief differently, especially in PnP. But in this game, he just blows."

Obvious XP benefits aside, I just don't like playing them. IMO, they're probably the weakest multi-class, period (in the IE games). Not enough oomph. They are bound by the weapon limitations of the game. There just aren't that many cool blunt weapons that count as thief weapons, etc. etc.

But that's me.

 

Because I knew the answer already. I just didn't want to sound like a prick.

 

If it's not, then something sucks. Or are elves really not supposed to have cleric multiclassed with fighters if nothing's wrong with multiclassing them with thieves, mages etc? I know it's mainly a dwarven idea, but still. Well, as I imagine the ancient Severed Hand, there would be a few fighter/clerics there. Heh. Anyway, even if it's not legitimate, it can be SKed through.

Never done anything other than lawful good human cavalier

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