The Gomery Inquiry

Well, Beren old boy, I couldn't load your article (I HATE these frigging school computers) but I don't think Chretien has anything to worry about.

Now, don't get me wrong -- the inarticulate bas***d is guilty as sin and as crooked as a dog's hind leg, but he has so many connections in the halls of power that he'll never pay a single fine or spend 5 minutes in jail.

I think the federal Liberals will get a firm hard slap on the wrist, pay a fine of some sort, perhaps they will sacrifice a few low level functionaries (who will then get massive under the table kickbacks of some sort for "taking one for the team") and they'll get voted in by a landslide in the post-Gomery election.

How is that possible? Like I said before, Ontario is controlled by Lib sympathizers who always get a good deal from their buddies, the Atlantic provinces are easy to buy, Quebec won't vote for a national party but rather for the Bloc (which splits the opposition vote, not that many Quebecois would ever vote for the Conservatives or the NDP) and the population in the West just doesn't have the numbers to make a significant difference. The inquiry will just be a red herring that in the end signifies nothing.

 

Good grief. So basically, if he likes the result, he'll give it an okey-dokey, but if he doesn't, then he'll call it a pack of lies. Talk about wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

And I agree with everything LKD says, with one addendum - the conservatives would have a chance if they a) weren't still seen as the western equivalent of the Bloc, and b) if they weren't so, umm, well, - conservative (as silly as that sounds, the PC's did quite well when they were more towards the centre and didn't incur voter wrath with the GST)

 

So Jean wants to wait to see what the judge says before he decides which side of his mouth to spout off from? The biggest reason that the Liberals stay in power is because the Conservatives run out of material once you get past the bit about the Liberals being crooked.

There's going to be some heat from the inquiry, Paulie will call his election, there will be another Liberal Minority with the NDP able to put them over the top, and not much will change. I agree that some flunkies will fall on their swords, but the ones at the top will be spared.

But who won't be in Ottawa next time? I doubt that Belinda Stronach will get re-elected. The people of her riding voted conservative, but got another Liberal. They won't soon forget that flip flop. Any Liberal MP that gets hit in the crossfire of the Gomery Report won't likely be on the ballot.

Unfortunately, we're still stuck with Paulie, Stevie and Jacko (Dumb, Dumber and Shemp) with the Bloc Quebecois...

 

I think the biggest problem the conservatives will have is two fold.

1) they keep beating a dead horse rather than advance business in parliament. The would earn more support if they truly did what Canadians wanted and that is help run the country. Enough with all the stand stills. Let's see who's head falls on the block and get on with things in the meantime.

2) someone offer them a big old shaker of salt to go with their feet. The seem to be putting them in theirs mouths alot with sexist and demeaning remarks.

If the Tories want to even come close to having a chance they need some major party reforms, platform reforms and and a general PR overhaul. They have to do what's best for the country and right now it's letting the inquiry do it's job. There's plenty of time for an election.

IMO the longer this thing goes the better it could go for the Tories. Will all those who are really responsible get punished? I doubt it. For now get back to making this country run like the best friggin country it should be. Who knows. it may turn out that the Gomery Inquiry finds solid evidence of involvement on the part of Paul Martin. Better for them to take that chance and wait then call a rush election and lose again.

 

Istolil is right. Get on with running the country. Let the Liberals breathe easy, then they'll make even bigger jackasses out of themselves. In the mean time, develop an actual vision of Canada, that you will pursue if elected (even in a minority). Push this vision on the Liberals who should be listening to you if they want to avoid a premature election. The Tories have really not impressed me this time around. I still passionately hate the Liberals and NDP, and still think that the Bloc should be arrested for treason, but I'm not impressed with the Tories...

 

And THAT'S the real crux of the matter, isn't it, Gnarff? We know that the Liberals wouldn't sell their own Grandmother -- if she could be rented out for a bigger profit -- and that they are a pragmatic party rather than an ideological one.

What Westerners want is a right of centre ideological party that we can really get behind. One with a vision of Canada we can respect and work for. Sadly, the Conservatives have only really achieved anything when they slid to the centre (meet the new boss, same as the old boss) and stopped following the ideals they claimed to espouse. Brian Baloney didn't help matters bu hitting us with the GST.

The only party with a firm ideology that they constantly espouse and follow through with is the NDP. I respect their ability to combine pragmatism with ideology -- they got a very leftist consolidation in the budget in return for their support. That said, though, they're really nothing but communists. They have proved in every province they've run that they do nothing but ruin economies.

The Green party is ideological, but they're also -- what's the proper scientific term for them? ah, yes, got it -- LOSERS! They are a one note band in an orchestral world. I hope they all choke on their tofu burgers.

 

We don't want a one trick pony, but we don't want them turning tricks for 5 years either. The Conservatives have a lot to gain if they decide what they want and actually talk to the crooks--er Liberals...

Actually what pissed me off about Brian Bullhooey was the Free Trade deal that threatens to shut down factories in Canada if the Dollar gets too high...

And the fact that he called an election when I was 17 and too young to vote instead of taking his full term and letting me vote then...

 

Canadian Unity? There's a real joke too. Probably a good percentage of Quebec wants to separate from Canada, and if that happens, then the Maritimes might as well separate too because they'll be cut off from the rest of the nation. Maybe then we'll be rid of them Damned Liberals, And Definately rid of the Bloc...

 

Bah, as I have said all along this whole business has been an exercise in making a mountain out of a mole hill. The results of the report are nothing that we have not seen and heard before and will not likely change anyone's political leanings.

If another election were to be called now I imagine that the liberals would be elected in again - possibly with another minority government but more likely with a small majority due more to people wanting a more stable government (and no more elections for four years) than any real shift in political thought.

 

Sure Paulie will escape legal consequence, but when you play in the pig pen, you still crawl out smelling like ****. I suspect a Conservative Minority next time around. First off, the Liberals stole money that was earmarked for Quebec. That won't sit well. The immediate beneficiaries will be the Bloc Quebecois. They'll likely add the seats that the Liberals drop in Quebec. In Ontario, Dalton McGuinty has soured some on the Liberal party, and some may look to Steven Harper and the Tories, others to Jack Layton and the NDP as alternatives. Without the Liberal's strongest support region, they'll fold like an accordian. In the west, The Conservatives will likely gain at teh Liberal expense. Assuming 308 seats in the House of Commons, I figure Conservatives for 125, Liberals about 80, Bloc about 60 and the NDPgetting 30 to 35 with independents and other candidates starting to show up in Ottawa...