Tips for F/M/T - how do you play with it?

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Well, I read some of the topics on F/M/T on this very same page, but they don't really answer my questions.

First of all, I'm not soloing - I'm taking my romantic interest with me, hehe (wild guesses as to whoever that may be...)

How should I go about the body armor - obviously I cannot cast spells in while wearing it, and I cannot re-equip it in battle. So do you cast the magical protections before battle, then put up armor, or not use body armor at all and rely solely on stoneskin, ghost armor, etc... ?

Any other tactical tips would be welcome, especially those regarding thieving abilities... I have little experience with thieves aside Jan Jansen...

Thanks in advance

 

Thanks, Beren,

That'll help, I'm sure

P.S. Indeed, I agree

 

I just started to solo a half-elf f/m/t.
He can cast protective spells, use thief skills and fight. My current stats are 19/18/18/18/10/20.

Use him/her as a backup mage/fighter and as a thief.

 

Thanks, dmc, that was all very helpful

A couple of sort of nnobish questions:

Does the ToB 8 mio experience cap works the same as SoA 2,95 cap did?

I mean for a tripple class - 2,66 mio in each is the cap, for multi - 4 mio in each seperate class?

Or is it 8 mio cap in each seperate class?

What I'm wondering is - F/M/T won't be getting the high level abilities then, right?

Another one - never played a multi before, how is the stronghold assigned? The one you do as first? I want Planar Sphere to get the golden girdle, but I will be doing Nalia's keep prior to that... is there a solution that don't require cheating?

TIA

 

You can do Nalia's Keep first and still get the Planar Stronghold as long as you don't talk to Nalia after you clear the keep--or at least not until you've been granted the Sphere. As a bonus, I think you can still get the Keep if you go back and talk to Nalia after you get the Sphere, thus gaining two strongholds.

 

That also means missing out on the reward for clearing the keep (at least for time being), sadly - and that's a lot of exp and gold.

 

F/M/Ts will be completely support by the end of the game. (except for the thief) Just checking...do HLAs come at thier designated levels or at the 3 mill experience mark? I forgot which one it was...

 

The FMT has some of the best HLA in the game, plus they can cast spell (up to level 8 with TOB)

Imagine this: Assassination + Use Any Ability + 4(?) att/round + Improved haste + Time Trap (it DOES stack) --> death to everything (except some of the toughest monster in the game)

FMT rulez

 

"Imagine this: Assassination + Use Any Ability + 4(?) att/round + Improved haste + Time Trap (it DOES stack) --> death to everything (except some of the toughest monster in the game)

FMT rulez"

The only way a FMT can get HLAs is with an experience cap remover, which is a cheat.

 

No, InquisitorX, you get your first HLAs when your total experience is 3 millions.

 

I generally play a FMT mostly as a stealthy thief with a great THACO, defensive spells, a summoned army, and offensive wands. At high levels, it's hard to beat a backstab with Celestial Fire followed by greater whirlwind. Or how about assassination with a potion of speed and dual-wielding? Instant invisibility with the staff of the Magi is also great in combo with a wand of cloudkill. And a character that can do all this? Look out!

For your abilities, go for low strength and charisma since you can get girdles of giant strength and a ring of human influence to max out these. Don't skimp on Dexterity--you're better off wearing bracers of defense than bracers of dexterity, or bracers of weapon expertise if you like to put on armor.

As a thief you can use potions of master thievery to steal all kinds of stuff, then sell it, steal it, sell it steal it, etc. to Gorch in the docks, and elsewhere. Get your money from Gorch, shop on the Promenade, give your $15,000 to the Shadow thieves, and you can be equipped with the following within a couple hours of escaping Irenicus' dungeon:

Bracers of defense AC 3
Ring of Protection +2
Amulet of Power
Vhailor's Helm (make sure to equip all your valuable items with limited charges before you simulacrum -- scrolls of protection from undead or magic, staff of fire, etc.)
Robe of Vecna
Mercykiller Ring
Girdle of Hill Giant Strength
Tower Shield (or whatever it's name is, it's +3, and +7 vs. missle weapons)
Shield of Reflection (permanent physical mirror when equipped, for when you are taking missile fire and you're not in melee).
Shield of Balduran (for beholders)
Sword of Balduran (for beholders -- to keep you from panicking when they cast fear/horror)
+2 weapon of your choice, or memorize the 4th level spell enchanted weapon and get yourself a +3 longsword every day (perfect for FMT, especially if you're an elf)
Strong arm longbow is nice (requires girdle above), or take proficiencies in axe (so you can throw them) since you can get pretty good magic ones in the game, they do great damage if you're strong, and you can use a shield with them
Plus, all the wands you got from Irenicus' dungeon (sell them, then steal them back fully charged).

Also kill the lich in the inn in the gate district and get all his wands, plus Daystar, which will do over 1,000 hp damage to all undead within range once per day with its supercharged sunray.

Unless you install the tactical packages, you can kill almost anything in the game with a wand of cloudkill, including golems, mindflayers, beholders, etc. At this point your most important thieving skill will be stealth to make sure you're not caught when you sneak around to find the best place to center the cloud.

Steal all the scrolls you can and memorize all the spells for the experience, using potions of genius to make sure you don't waste any.

Go into the temple district sewer and kill the jerks in the top section of the map -- get a nice +2 throwing axe. Also kill the Rakshasa and take its cloak to better your AC.

Add the Ring of Gaxx in the afternoon (easiest way to take out liches is with scrolls of protection from undead -- they ignore you while you kill them). Buy/steal three or four scrolls of protection from undead, and this is a walk in the park.

By the time you take your first nap, you will have gained many levels and you'll be equipped with enough junk to get you through almost anything you'll encounter for the rest of the game. I once set sail for Spellhold on day 3, and that was after lounging around a bit and getting a stronghold. Bear in mind, though, that once you're equipped with all this stuff, the game isn't so challenging unless you play on insane and add some tactical mods. About the only thing that can stop you is "stun" effects, for which I know no way to get immunity early in the game (later, with "use any item," you can get Mazzy's sword and solve this problem). Don't use armor, as it prevents you from casting mirror image and stoneskin in the middle of combat, and sometimes one contingency just isn't enough.

 

Heh, we hit the three million exp mark in spellhold already... I'm now confused with the larg amount of HLA I can pick... I picked assassination as first, hmmm... pondering about that GW... does assassination makes it absolete or should I still invest in it?

Anyways, what do my fellow F/M/T's pick?

 

I have greater Whirldwind (4 times), Assasination (2 times), Hardiness and Evasion/Greater Evasion.

Chapter 3
Fighter lvl 16
Mage lvl 15
Thief lvl 19

A real killer with STONESKIN!

GW IS useful.
You take Stoneskins off with it.

[ March 12, 2003, 10:11: Message edited by: Taza ]