Troy?

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Did troy come out in Britain today? Has anyone seen it?

 

I'm from Sweden and I saw last Saturday, so I guess that it has been launched in Britain also...

Don't have to much expectations of it though. I thought that the trailer were actually better than the movie. Brad Pitt does a remarkable bad effort as Akilles. He acts somehow like a stoned bay watch star.

 

Thats a sham, because I'm really looking forward to it. I'll probably still go see it though.

 

Well, its out in Australia for sure...and it was good. No thanks to Brad Pitt though. Is it just me, or did everyone think that Eric Bana was brilliant as Hector?

 

I watched it last Friday and the positives are:


1. very good battles except from the duel of Hector and Achilles, which I believe that it was too much "dancing" at least for my taste.
2. Good costumes.
3. Nice acting by Brad Pitt and the guy who plays Hector.

The negatives are:

1. Many, far too many inaccuracies and changes. The worst was that the war lasted just 15 days.
2. He failed to present the characters correctly, he twisted the characters of Agamemnon and Menelaus and he failed to show how tragic characters Hector and Achilles were. The only characters that he presented successfuly were Paris and Priamus.
3. There were points were the script was ridiculous. For example when Hector kills Patroclus and realizes that he wasn't Achilles he says to Odysseus "Enough blood is spilled today, let's continue tomorrow", Odysseus agrees and the battle stops.
4. Bad acting from the model, who plays Helen.

 

Someone from Greece should know.

Indeed, there are too much changes. They die in the wrong place, wrong time, wrong situation. Just don't bother and it'll be fine.

 

Troy came out in the UK ages ago

 

For entertainment value, it's decent enough, however, the story is so butchered that it's barely recognizable.

Being a fan of classical literature, I knew that Hollywood would butcher the story, but I didn't think that it would be butchered to the extent that it had been.

I agree with BOC's opinions.

IMO, the inaccuracies in Troy are worse than those that were in Gladiator.

 

I saw it yesterday and indeed Eric Bana was brilliant! And so was Orlando. Pit was a bit dissapointing this time. But it was a nice movie!

 

Yes Eric Bana was amazing in it, and saved the movie. I quite liked the battle between Achilles and Hector.

They changed a whole load of stuff that just either made me cringe or get annoyed. The first one was the whole thing with Patroclus. Why the hell did they make him Achilles cousin!? And Briseis was not royalty and maybe not a Priestess of Apollo, though I'm not sure. She was a slave girl taken from a surrounding village that the Acheans attacked before hitting Troy.
And lets just rewrite myth shall we!!! Agamemnon was murdered by his wife upon his return to Mycenie, not Briseis in Troy. And the Danaans were there for 10 years not a couple of weeks. Nestors role of Advisor was played down. If I can remember correctly, Agamemnon sends 3 men to convince Achilles to rejoin the war.
That reminds me of another thing - Achilles tells Patroclus to fight the Trojans away from the ship if he wants and lets him lead the Myrmadons into battle... God, the list just goes on....

If I've made any mistakes (except spellings - its been a while) please correct me)

I hate Hollywood sometimes.

 

Very good movie - brilliant battles anyhow.

However, the bookstores near the movie theatre haven't learnt the art of cashing in. Neither of them had The Iliad or The Odessey

 

Maybe a bit offtopic but the part with the Minotaur in the Labyrinth did this happen before or after Troy?

 

I think that was King Minos in Crete...and it happened after Troy. At least I'm pretty sure it happened after Troy. Maybe before even. Hell, it could've been during Troy, but rest assured - Brad Pitt was not there!

 

@SleepleSS

The adventures of Theseus (labyrinth included)took place before the war of Troy.

 

BOC, I don't think the model who played Helen was cast for her acting

 

@Erebus

That's true but it can't be an excuse for her acting or for those who have chosen her. There are real actresses, who are more beautiful and can play this role with success (Monica Belucci and Liv Tyler for example).

 

Did any of you see the television version on A&E called "Helen of Troy?" I thought it was pretty good. The guy that played Achilles was much tougher and cooler than Braddie boy! Actually, the guy that played Achilles could play Minsc in a BG live action film!!! Take a look:

Helen of Troy

Here's a pic of the guy that played Achilles, he's midway down the page, on the right, with a picture of Helen on the left:

Achilles and the Helen of Troy TV movie

 

I have to agree with this. Kruger couldn't act, she may be beautiful but not beautiful enough to launch a thousand ships.

1. Eric Bana did a good job as Hector.
2. I also like Peter O'Toole and Brain Cox's acting as Priam and Agamemnon, respectively.
3. Sean Bean had a great character, but sadly he has a lousy script.
4. Butt Pitt, I mean Brad, was more like there to make the girls swoon. Although, I have to admit that some of his moves were really cool.
5. If Troy wasn't derived from Iliad or any other literature, it is a great movie. But as a movie based on Homer's work, it's nothing Homeric.

 

I saw it one week before the release of "Troy" and the only think that I liked was the actress who played helen. She was very good and actually she was just as I imagined Helen the first time I read Iliad. As for the guy who played Achilles...
Achilles a skinhead? Well since I saw that I wouldn't be surprised if they make him a mohican in the next movie about Troy

 

Basically, I was wholeheartedly disappointed in this film. There was nothing Homeric about it at all and certainly nothing epic either. One of the worst mistakes IMO was - as it seemd to me at least - making the film about Achilles more than anything whereas The Iliad itself was moreso about the whole war and most everybody involved. Certainly someone better-suited to the role of Achilles could have been found for crying out loud.