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David Fried's IWD2 Adaptations

I was glancing at them, and they look really great for this game, but sadly I can't find them anywhere...

 

http://pageperso.aol.fr/Ipotemine/

has some files from it (cleric domains, subraces) sadly prestige classes arent there as far as i can see

 

Yeah, this is what I was looking at, but they are 2 different sets

One David Fried's packs have genasi, and LOTS of cleric domains, sadly there is no download for them awwww....

 

Halasz, new cleric Domains aren't all that difficult to create. The real problem is that merely implementing a new domain and appropriate spells doesn't account for the fact that a fair number of the current domains have hooks into a number of dialogs and other scripts. For example, if I were to create a replacement domain for Bane, if I only replaced the domain spells and abilities, the new domain would still be seen by the dialogs and other scripts as a Banite.

Or if a LG replacement for Ilmater were created, it would still be seen by the monk and paladin kits as an Ilmater domain and the cross-classing with that domain would remain as is.

If these sorts of limitations are acceptable to players as the price for new domains, then new domains could be added in a heartbeat.

Oh, and another thing... IIRC, the previous new domain mod let you select which of the current domains you would replace with the new domain. That is, say you wanted to add Tymora, a CG domain, the previous cleric mod would let you overwrite any of the existing 9 domains. That sounds good, but the "cost" for doing so is thousands upon thousands of lines of additional WeiDU code to support that (at least as the previous mod implemented it).

OTOH, if you only overwrote the domain of the exact same alignment, it would make domain mod writing vastly more simple. For example, if you wanted to add Tymora, a CG domain, you would have to overwrite the existing CG domain, Selune. This sort of domain overwriting is vastly simpler and requires vastly fewer lines of code to implement. I should know. Last year, I wrote the code to implement 8 new domains (all but Ilmater), one for each alignment. While I never tested the code nor attempted to install it, the code to support those 8 domains wasn't difficult to write. Heck, it was probably more work making interesting the 8 domain spell sets so that they'd have the flavor of each domain, without being overly repetitive and boring.


Just as an FYI, the eight domains that I wrote up were as follows:

Treespeaker of Mielikki (NG)
Luckrider of Tymora (CG)
Dweomerkeeper of Mystra (LN)
Firewalker of Kossuth (TN)
Windwalker of Shaundakul (CN)
Painteacher of Loviatar (LE)
Nightcloak of Shar (NE)
Fang of Talona (CE)

And I also wrote the code for the Eilistraee domain (CG).

Right now, I'm working on a different IWD2 mod. But after I've completed it, perhaps I'll do something with these cleric domains.

 

Hi.
Are these domains in a file? I have the one with the racial deities, and would like more. Had to mod the Lolth domain to Eilistraee, as I did not find it online. It has some bugs, that I don't know how to sort out, so I haven't published it.

Halstein.

 

I simply did plenty of research online for the domains for each of the above dieties. The normal process according to the rules is to select two domains from your diety's list. However, for the purposes of IWD2, and good measure of originality and difference from other dieties, I would select 2 spells for each level from all domains for each of the above dieties. Furthermore, when there weren't any good options, I'd make the best possible substitution.


Here's an example of the detail that I went into developing the Eilistraee domain.


Eilistraee's domains are Good, Chaos, Charm, Drow, Elf, Moon, and Portal.

Here is one possible set of "domain" spells for Eilistraee.

L1: Charm Person, Faerie Fire
L2: Cat's Grace, Moon Motes
L3: Dire Charm, Moonblade
L4: Emotion: Hope, Wall of Moonlight
L5: Dominate Person, Greater Command
L6: Circle of Blades, Banishment
L7: Sunbeam, Symbol of Fear
L8: Mind Blank, Symbol of Hopelessness
L9: Mass Dominate, Black Blade of Disaster

And her domain "powers":
1. Lightning Reflexes
2. Divine Radiance (my name): +6 CHA 1/day, 1 round/level
3. replace Mace and Quarterstaff feats with Longsword and Bastard Sword feats.

#3 is not really a "power". It's much more of just a feature of Eilistraee's church. Eilistraee is all about swordplay in combat. She greatly prefers that her clerics wield swords in battle, if at all possible. hence, the adjusted feats.

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I'm curious what people would think of a new cleric domains mod that didn't deal with all of the various scripts and dialogs that mention the original 9 domains in various ways.

Adding in new domains isn't all that difficult, after you've researched and created a list of spells and domain "powers". It's the dialogs and scripts that are linked to the original dialogs that would make developing a comprehensive mod really, really difficult. OTOH, if people could "live with" a clerics mod that only provided new domain spell sets and powers but ignored the domain interactions with scripts and dialogs, providing new domains would be quite easy.

 

I reckon I could live with that, as my cleric is rarely ever my main speaker and I believe there is only a few quests that are specifically for clerics, like healing Reig and blessing recruits etc.

 

And, for the healing of Reig, you can use a Paladin anyways

 

It should be noted that the only existing IWD2 mod (not mine) that added new cleric domains didn't deal with scripts and dialogs that linked to the existing domains. It only added new domain spell sets and powers.

Just an FYI...

 

Hi Crucis,
I only changed spells and and domainpowers for my Eilistraee, however I think I did somethings a bit different with the powers.
Changed the weapons like in #3, tried to implement Eagle's splendor for #2, but this didn't work. Got two extra "Turn undead" instead for some reason.

Think you made this page: http://pageperso.aol.fr/Ipotemine/IWD2Domains.html
so thank for your research.

Did not do anythin with dialoge etc. so I choosed to exchange Selene with Eilistraee, as they are somewhat similar.

Halstein.

[ April 12, 2007, 18:54: Message edited by: Taluntain ]

 

halstein, that link isn't mine. That page was made by the person who made the first IWD2 clerics mod, IIRC. I basically just googled various Forgotten Realms dieties and bounced around the web for my research.