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Who was the man behind it all?

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Jaguar, Dec 1, 2003.

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    Everyone remember Kalah from Aerie's Circus tent? He said that he was helped by someone and promised greatness. But he never did tell who it was. I might have just missed a string, but I would like to know if anyone knows.

    And also, I know there were otheres that were helped or spurred on my unmentioned evils, but names I cannot recall. So feel free to put them in to try to find any common roots.
     
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    An answer to this question should be answered with the next version of Unfinished Business. :)
     
  3. Alavin

    Alavin If I wanted your view, I'd read your entrails Veteran

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    Along the same lines, does anyone know who the "stronger" is that TorGal mentions in the Keep? Or the "Mr F" that the two thugs in the slums refer to (Bregg and Cohrvale, I think they are)?
     
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    Barmy Army Simple mind, simple pleasures... Adored Veteran

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    I always assumed that by "Mr F" they were referring to Firkraag (sp?).

    The "stronger" I whittled down to either the Roenalls (sp? - thought I have trouble convincing myself on this one) or Firkraag again. It seems his style. Create a problem for a keep, then cure the problem and assume control over it. Would he have cleared the keep himself had you not intervened do you think?

    Just guesses though ^_^
     
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    The Stronger referred to by Firkraag is the Roenalls. They knew that they got complete control of the keep (through the betrothal agreement with Nalia) if everyone died. Therefore, they wanted to make it look as though monsters were responsible for the downfall of the D'Arnise.
     
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    Also, Torgall said that he was paid in Land. Assuming that he didn't mean the de'Arnise keep, The Roenalls are also large landholders.
     
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    There are more things hidden than we may think. I remember of a passage in the dialog with Shangalar that he said something about the Slavers in the city and also a talk with Sion (Guarded Compound) when there was an option in the dialog that gave me the chance to say something like: "I came to destroy you, slaver!"...nothing like that, just the meaning, ok?
    So...someone has the answers to these ones???
     
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    @The Silver Bear
    These were supposed to be parts of a Nalia sidequest that was abandoned before it was completely finished.
    It connects the Guarded Compound, the Twisted Rune, the Skinner Quests, the Trademeet Skindancer Quest, The Silver Dragon Blood Quest, and some Slaver Quests IIRC.
     
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    Really??? I didn't know that!!! By the way, how do you know such information? The official site shows these kind of information??
     
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    David Gaider is an employee of BioWare that got really involved in BG2 after it was released. He made the Acencsion mod and a couple others. He frequents forums and has told people that there were tons of unfinished additions (Slaver's, Minsc quest, The Hidden, etc.) that were never implemented due to time contraints.
     
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    [​IMG] Are there mods that allow all of these unfinished quests (see above) to be used? I mean, Minsc is cool now. Add a quest and he gets practicaly three dimensional. And I f there was more to do in the game, It might be more challanging.

    And on a side note, in the gaurded complex in the Temple District there are little flasks which lead me to believ that it was meant for some quest? Anybody know?
     
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    Are they called "Empty Potion Bottles" ??

    I think I have them (or had IIRC).
     
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    Well, what are they for?
     
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    It has never been proven that the "stronger" to which Tor'Gal refers is the Roenall family. There are many theories, and no solid proof has been found to deny or confirm any claims.

    And, yes, there is a mod that restores some of these quests. It is called Unfinished Business. The mod site is here: http://home.houston.rr.com/icelus/ub/
    and the forum is here: http://forums.fwstudios.net/index.php?showforum=110

    Much has been discussed on the forum, including everyone discussed in this thread. Minsc's quest is available in the current release.
     
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