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[My apologies to Gnolyn, who was responding to a different (bitchier) version of my post above while I was editing it.]

And the "accidents happen" attitude I was exhibiting was in regards to our own troops in war. We expect our military to do something about it and fix the mistakes, but realistically it's something that happens when you play with bombs and the like.

[This message has been edited by Shralp (edited April 22, 2002).]

 

Sprite, I apologize. And that's not meant as sarcasm.

I don't think, however, that ANYONE has the right to say, "The US screwed up" or "The US military screwed up" or anything similar! How easy it is for us to point fingers. It's not going to solve anything. I do think that an apology is in order. What happens in "real life" when we make a mistake? We say, "Oops, I'm sorry."

[edit] - When I speak about pointing fingers I was addressing how they all targeted broad groups. A few should not cause a hatred to spread towards the many. In a case like this it would be nearly impossible to pull out the specific people who caused the problem, so a general apology seemed appropriate.

[This message has been edited by Sapiryl (edited April 23, 2002).]

 

I see no reason (so try to make me understad) why the nine hells is Canada involved in the war anyway?

 

I have to say BTA, you took the words right out of my mouth....

 

Sapiryl, why can't ANYONE have the right to say americans screw up? even if about half of the people who post here think they did.


Kill_Lexington, you ask why canada is in that war but have you ever think why the u.s. is in many war and some of those war have nothing to do with them.


sorry if my statements sounded very critical, i am not and i hold no grudge against any of you (yet!). however, i do admit i did not like what you two have just said. maybe you can explain them further cause i don't like to be displeased with someone simply because i did not completely get their point.

 

I think that anyone who points to a concrete group and grouses about them, even if they have only had bad experiences with some of them, is a moron. Simply put.

It's like being rascist or chauvanist...I have no right to say that Afghanistan is the refuse pile of civilization just because I disagree with some Afghanistan people. Nor can I say that all Catholics are God's chosen and the greatest people on the planet(if you've been watching US television lately, you know that lie.)

[edit dealing with Sprite's post below...]
--Really Sprite? In every post you've made you've taregetted the US and the US military. Not only that, but regardless of what the thread is based on, there have been blatent posts concerning us as well. And I'm not defending anyone, I just wanted to state my opinions on stereotypes.

[This message has been edited by Sapiryl (edited April 24, 2002).]

 

Sapiryl, this thread is criticising a specific US military action, not all of the US or even all of the US military.

 

A message to Sprite: A minor clarification on your first post of this thread: America was not "bombed" last year. Those bastards didn't have the dignity to bomb us.

(\end futile and pointless rant over unimportant fact)

To reply to Poodle's comment: Don't you dare start speaking wrongly of US's involvement in WWII. Without America entering the war, you'd have a lot more to btich about than the Battle of Britain.

 

That's true, but everyone must admit that the US has a (recent) history of getting involved in things that have nothing to do with them (ie. Vietnam...).
PS-Kill_Lexington, BTA's right, Canada has a *duty* to get involved in this mess.
PPS-I heard on the news a little while ago, that Bush wants to move on to the Mid-East, after Afghanistan, and that the Canadian PM, Jean Chretien ("Cretin" for short...no pun intended) refuses to follow along. Can anyone confirm this? Or is it a load of crap?

 

Allow me to resurrect an old thread with this news item:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,62946,00.html

The Air Force is looking to charge the pilot that dropped the bomb with manslaughter and his lead pilot with aiding and abetting.

 

This whole makes me think of the bombing of that tiny tiny Afghan village.
During the party some Afghanis (tell me if I spelled it wrong) shot into the air, since that´s a tradition, as much as throwing rice is in the Western countries.

A few minutes later the whole village was bombed resulting in 200+ deaths.

BTW, the Taliban regime was already removed

American response: Eeh, Oops!! Sorry!

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Oh, and Slim, We saved your *** during the indepence war, so don´t think Americans have the right to invade Holland because you think you can commit any crime in a faraway country without getting punished
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[ September 13, 2002, 20:31: Message edited by: Morgoth ]

 

Hmm well i've been feeling pretty warm towards the USA as of late. Realized how hard America is trying to help people. But, i suppose it is the right thing to do. I know it was a mistake, but it still needs to be punished.

 

Sorry for all those involved.

Now you see what happens when you're given orders by an ******* !

 

friendly fire. Horrible, horrible thing. Unfortunately, it is an inevitable part of warfare. Now, there are many steps you can take to minimize the rate of occurance, but people make errors. Whent the people making the errors are using lethal weapons...

But that's a general statement. In this case, the article makes it seem pretty clear that it was simply a case of neglence on the part of the pilots.

as for the wedding, I seem to recall Shralp saying that they found functioning anti-aircraft weapons in the village. Shralp, got a link handy?

 

They did, probably layed down there by US Army afterwarths to have a "good" excuse for genocide

So, if the Americans found more weapons in another village, they would be pretty justified to nuke the place. Right?

 

Morgoth, stop being so anti-America all the time. If the USA didn't exist, the world would be in ****. The Germans would have likely one the first world war if they hadn't helped. And the Nazis would deffinatley have one the second if America hadn't joined. If America collapsed now, the world would be in sh**. The world's economy thrives through the USA. You probably wouldn't be sitting at your computer if they didn't exist. You can't get all anti-USA over one pilot's silly mistake.

 

The thing that I´m pissed about is that America tries to squeeze themselves out the International Law thing.
A few months ago Bush threatened to invade Holland as soon as American soldiers were arrested and brought to court in Den Haag.
It´s like they feel themselves above the law, just because the world thrives around America doesn´t mean they can commit crimes without being punished.

BTW, not just one pilot mistake, makes me think anti-USA-government, just everything between Vietnam, Communisthunting and Iraq comes to mind

 

So true, so true, but that's the nature of humans right?