Are Fighters useless? in PvM NOT PvP

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Ok well so what if you can only get up to +3 (Scarlet ninja-to) with Extra attack weapons? try dueling with Belm and Scarlet and getting up to 8 attacks a round with Smite and CS.

Differance between GWW and Improved hasted with Belm and Scarlet.

GWW: 10 attacks a round with a 1/20 chance of getting a Critical hit, and the options of using+5 weapons

Imp.Haste: 8 attacks a round with each hit been a critical strike meaning double damage each hit, and only a +2 and +3 weapon.

So besides all this what is one thing apart from the Ravager that cannot be hit by +3?

You get 2 attacks less with improved haste but those 8 attacks all do double damage which is the equivilent of 16 attacks a round, you do the math.

I think a level 20 Kensai and Berserker have an even chance probably, The Berserker has a higher AC meaning less damage taken from a hit, and the Kensai has a good enough damage modifier Thac0 to be on par with the beserker in # of hits and damage, and the Kensais can use the Iuon stones which give critical hit protection as good as any other helmet.

 

Of course Improved Haste is better than GWW. With True Grand Mastery you can have up to 4 attacks per round so IH gives you 8 and a much longer duration than GWW. The only problem I see in your argument is that at high levels IH is complete overkill. With 3 tanks GWWing I've taken down Improved Demogoron and all his fiends down in 3 rounds flat. Is IH really a great use of a 6th level spell slot at this point? I think not.

 

GWW only lasts for one round per use a level 20 mage or Sorcerer casting improved haste lasts a lot longer then one round (20 to be exact) and it's more practical combining it with CS, I know you loose the great animation of going into the whirlwind but it's a trade off