Armageddon

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Tarsakh - if you are talking about the horseman in Revelations 6:2, I do not see how that relates to pestilence. Might the Anti-Christ (conquering materially, and having a crown to represent success), or Christ (conquering through, say, belief, faith, etc., and having a crown to represent being King of Kings).

 

I never said Pestilence had a crown did I? He has a scale. And Pstilence also rides upon a white horse.

Any who, I did some more research, and the apocalypse would happen like this:

The sun will darken and the moon turned to blood (Joel 2:31)

The sky "rolled" up and the stars fell (Isiah 34)

Earthquakes and floods (Isiah 24:18, 19)

The undoing of God's creations (Gen 1, Jer 4:23)

There are also other parts in Isa 34:4, Daniel 11:32, 33 and 2Peter 2.

There are also more passages in: Gen 3,4,and 19, Gen 1:2 (NRSV only), Dan 7:2, 2Esd 13:2.

However all this is put together in Revelations.

 

I never said that you were wrong about the White Horseman not having a crown. I just don't see anything that relates to pestilience. According to the Bible I have, the Black Horseman holds a balance (scales), and represents famine. I'm pretty sure you can also interpret as pestilence, as they are a bit of the same thing, though.

 

LMAO at Latches posts. Lighten up.

I do believe in the Armageddon but I don't believe that anyone in the current media (Bush included) falls into the category of Mr 666. Its entertaining reading though

[ April 27, 2003, 17:03: Message edited by: Astin X ]

 

Well, I think that either Saddam or Bush is the Antichrist.

 

Heh. I'd say Saddam's way too out of power (and never will be in it again) to be the "Beast". As for Bush, I think people are a bit too wary of him. I'd say it's the one we least suspect the least (that is, if you believe in it or not, heh).

Could very well be the Ned Flanders next door to you.

 

Yourself?

 

Though it is true that no one shall know the day nor the hour, it does not mean we're not given clues when it will happen. Meaning, we're given time to prepare. The exact time is not known, but certainly as we see in the Bible, we are given signs of that coming time. As for the 4 Horsemen:

It's taken here: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01594b.htm

 

And Revelations!

 

Iraq having anything to do with Armageddon? Please.

If you do believe in Armageddon, don't forget it is ISRAEL that is the scene of the conflict, and the protagonist as well.

The four horsemen ride sequentially, not together. But I won't get too involved in interpretation of Revelations, since nobody will like it much anyway.

 

To be specific, its Mount Carmel, which although is in Israel, is also pretty damn close to to Baghdad. And don't forget the ten kings that will rise and fall within one hour, so the new ruler of Iraq will rise and fall in a short time, while he proclaims his alligience with the Anti-christ.