Defeating Improved Invisbility plus SI:Divination

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Well when fighting Kuroisan, I surrounded him with invisible party members while just one person whacks him.

Works for the most part. He sometimes casts dispel magic at which point I lead that party member away. If I was not fast enough, some of the invisible party members get their invisibility dispelled. Fortunately, they have plenty of potions of invisibility from the Tactics random city encounters LOL.

 

But the Acidic backlash thing on that chap's Katana is extremely irritating. Hitting him with stuff like Lower MR and Greater Malison hits my FMT with Acidic Backlash over and over. Its so irritating. I removed the Kuroisan part of the Tactics Mod after the first fight. More an irritation than a challenge.



Even the fight with Irenicus in the Tactics mod is sooo annoying. After getting through the various dragons, beholders, mordy swords and what have you, and THEN getting through the slayer, you have to take on a mage who cheats.

I had a few Protection from Magic Scrolls lying around, and I WAS soloing, so I figured I'd just keep using them and last out his spells. Guess what? I ran through 4 of the things and no dice! I still had him chucking Fingers of Death at me like it there was no tomorrow.

And everytime you hit him, he teleports all over the place and then heals himself. That's supposed to be a challenge? Its a pain in the you-know-what!!

Well, I removed that part of the tactics mod too...

Well, coming back to Kuroisan...annoying guy!

PS:I realise this post has been a bit off-topic. I'm hoping Tal or BTA will let it slide this time through. Cheers!

 

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For Kuroisan, only 4 things are needed. Invsibile meat shields, ring of freedom, a long reach weapon and cloak of mirroring. nuff said. There are other tactics but this has been the easiest way to take him down.

 

Ure all wrong. Lol dispel and remove should bring down an SI except abjuration depending on your level. They will even work on a lich, though by the point u can dispel a lich you will probably be able to turn them. However dispel magic does not dispel invisibilty. Thus you must follow up any dispel magic with a true sight.

 

To beat Kurosian, you need 1 spell: Protection from Acid. He's a pushover once you nullify that sword of his.

Dispel Magic should not remove Spell and Combat protections. All it's really supposed to remove are things like melee-improving buffs. If it is removing SI, then there's another bug.

 

Huh?

It's explicitly stated in the stoneskin spell description that it can be disspelled:

This is also in agreement with the description for dispel/remove magic, below. In regards to dispel/remove magic vs spell immunity, re-read the description for both:

Dispel/remove magic should remove all combat protections and buffs (stoneskin et al), but leave spell protections (spell immunity et al) untouched.

 

Master of cheese, Userunfriendly, specifically mentioned a chain contingencied (can target invisible opponents as opposed to actively targetting) triple Remove Magic to hit Vampirized Solaufein to remove his improved invisibility (in spite of his SIivination) and I believe, his combat (as opposed to spell) protections.

UU, where are you?

 

I also seem to remember the stoneskin spell description stating that Dispel Magic will not affect it.

I don't have my manual on hand and won't until the weekend, but I'm reasonably certain that that was stated.

The manual has a tendency to refer to all dispelling spells (Breach, Spellstrike) as a dispel magic.

 

The manual has the same spell description for stone skin. The description for dispel magic is slightly different in that it does not specifically mention that it does not affect spell protections in the manual. If anything, this would broaden the effects of a dispel/remove magic rather than narrow them.

 

I'm a puritan gamer in every sense, and whenever I play the world narrows down to only me and the game.

So from the game itself here are my observations on Dispel:

It removes melee protections of any type (i.e. PoMW, Stoneskin);
It removes enhancing spells and transmutation/enchantment spell/ability effects;
It removes certain low level spell protections;
It can remove spell-like effects from items;
It pierces MR, and grants no saving throw.

I might be wrong about something, but this is the general case of how dispel works and (is supposed to work by game description) in my games. D&D claims otherwise, and though I'd yield to this, I would not agree on a fix on it since it would seriously unbalance the game for any other class than the Mage/Sorcerer.
I think this was the reason why it works this way.