Dispelling the Viconia Myth

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it's all in how you use them. For Example I tend to take a not so much a buff heavy but a magic heavy approach to a lot of things. That finds things like hitpoints not being such a liability. I have games where most of my party has some kind of offensive spell to throw at enemies or to replenish the hitpoints of my own party. Viconia becomes powerful this way. Specially when I do something like stick the flail of ages or Crom Faeyr in her mainhand with the over abundant ammount of really strong armor. The myriad of other things that lower ac even without buff's. I have trouble with a couple of the dragons because my preferred way to rip through them is a couple of quick lower resistances and then a myriad of area affect spells. Preferably the more with multiple round durations the better. And then I draw the dragon through my chosen area so it takes massive damage.

This is part of why spells like Ice Storm are a big deal for my usage but others seem to totally discount the spell as widely useful.

By the way. Cernd does regenerate when shape shifted. Just because of the fact that it's not blindingly obvious like 3hp a second or something doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I blame movies for making it so that people think Regeneration is some kind of "oh I blink and their healed" type of phenomenon. You want that with Cernd. there are certain items that he can wear to give something simular.

 

I'm very summons heavy, so until Viccy hit's lvl 15 (Animate Dead), that's why she's of so little worth to me, even then she tends to be overshadowed by Nalia and Imoen, who being mages have access to much better summons. Jaheira also, for me, is forever more worthwhile then Viccy, once Jaheira can cast level 6 spells. Being there are so many fire based spells, that 100% fire immunity coupled with that slight chance of getting an Elemental Prince makes that the most worthwhile individual summon in the game. Jaheira's insect plague and creeping doom aren't too shabby either.

 

First of all, people like to take a cleric IF their main character isn't one. SO if i wanted a cleric (and i do) i have to pick from a selection of the NPCs. And i REALLY hate Anomen so he's out and Aerie is pretty weak so that means she is too.

Druids are completely different so we don't need to talk about them.

Viconia is the best pure cleric in the game no matter what anyone says. Shes got a nice wisdom score, some nice resistances and she can kill quite a lot before she goes down. Yeh she aint very strong but wata u want! She's a cleric so it's not like she's gonna be the best fighter! If you wanted a pathetic character take Anomen! LOL

She's a cleric, and her job is to provide some support on the field with spells and even some fighting prowess. If you want anymore choose a different character!

 

In normal werewolf form Cernd has no regeneration. In greater werewolf form he gets a CON 25, which gives him a higher rate of 'natural' regeneration.

I don't give a damn how regeneration is handled in the movies or whatever. In the game, greater werewolves are supposed to regenerate 3 HP per second according to their CRE file, but that doesn't carry over when the shapeshifter polymorphs into one. Neither do their weapon immunities, nor their claw attack, which is supposed to be 2D8 and enchanted +3, not 1D6 enchanted +2.

The OP made the point that Anomen's offensive casting is separated from Viconia's only by two first and second level spells and one third and fourth level spell, which is true. Either of the two characters can perform adequately as an offensive caster, but Anomen outperforms Viconia as a fighter.

 

Yep, he sure does. Only problem is Viccy outperforms him as a Cleric. And seeing as how I already have a very good fighter in my game there is noooo need to take a weak character like him.

 

The point of this whole thread is that she doesn't outperform anyone as a cleric by any significant amount.

If Anomen gets his knighthood, his WIS increases to 16, which gives him the two additional first and second level spells. Then it's just one memorisation slot in the third and fourth level separating them... it's difficult to rationalise how that could be worth trading off Anomen's fighting skills. To say you 'already have a fighter' is silly, you can never have too many characters that can fight.

It's not 'wrong' to take Viconia over Anomen just because you don't like Anomen. I'm in the same boat. But to make Viconia out as some kind of vastly superior cleric is misleading.

 

hehe you caught me out! Yes I hate him so it kinda makes me take Viccy over him. Either way I find the game more fun with her anyways!

In the end you could just giver her a pair of gauntlets of strength or something if you wanted her on the front lines.