Easy Tutu Solo?

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^Cool! Bony good luck then! Keep giving us feedbacks!

Gnome I/T is a cool concept! I hope you will learn to use him effectively!

 

All right it is decided, it will be a gnome I/T. Here are his stats.

Str 14
Dex 18
Con 12
Int 19
Wis 13
Cha 10
I rerolled FOREVER to get these stats and then stole 2 From Charisma to give to Dex. I figure it wont hurt to pay more for things if I can open locks well enough. I'm still in Candlekeep and still can't decide between a short bow and darts. Either way, I will be using one more cheat, I can't stand to have to buy ammo wherever I go so I will cheat out 500 stacks of plain old darts/arrows (no plus twos or anything) I hope to get a couple hours of play in tonight, and I will keep you all posted on how it goes.

I know to all the purists out there this will seem like a lot of chaeting, but it is huge self control for a cheater like me.

 

OK, so I am down in Beregost and running around picking off the easier targets and getting XP from the easy quests and running away from anything very tough. I am starting to get the hang of the shoot and run and actually played for one hour straight last night without having to reload. I save a lot it takes a while to kill things, but I am actually enjoying the role playing. I am definitely starting to really like backstab. I mananged to kill something down south of High Hedge and got a +2 shortsword. I went with darts for the spell disruption, and they are working pretty well.

 

If you don't mind using the cheesy Algernon's cloak then you can charm some of them and let them fight each other

But there is an even worse enemy,the mustard jelly.

 

Hello -

Nah, ankhegs are much worse due to not being able to backstab them.

Mustard jellies are simple. Pull one with an arrow and then restealth so you can figure out which side is their back. "Backstab" with a quarterstaff twice; dead. That's one of the reasons I advocated staves and 2H style: almost everything falls to crushing damage.

 

You can backstab jellies in BG1, EVEN with TuTu? Oh this sounds wrong, somehow.

 

I don't know how you can backstab a creature with no anatomy, but can't an insect (head, abdomen and thorax). It is wrong, though if it can be done, more power to you.

 

@ Macready

Good to know that.I was trying to backstab them with daggers and s.swords but I got the ''weapon ineffective'' message.The only solution I found to kill them was hit and run with a crossbow but it took a LOT of time.

 

Hello -

The most important part of the equation is the crushing damage, so a potion of free action and a staff will do quite nicely even without backstabbing.

 

I vaguely remember being able to backstab ankhegs in BG1, too, but I might be dead wrong. Or maybe there's a difference between BG1 ankhegs and Tutu ankhegs.

 

If you have a party you can backstab them.But for a solo-thief it's impossible.

 

You can backstab both ankhegs and jellies. The problem with ankhegs is that they stay underground unless there's an enemy in sight, meaning a solo is screwed, but a 2-6 person party can do it with proper scouting. The problem with jellies is that you can't tell which direction they're "facing", especially if you have TotSC, which randomizes it. But if you can force them to face a certain direction (a la Macready's arrow example), you can backsmack from the other side; cheesy, but effective.

 

Isn't it a bug that jellies can be backstabbed? IIRC they were immune in BG2, with 'the nackstab seemed to fail' message.

But BG2 jellies are imune right? And other some cratures like Beholders and their kin, golems and dragons?

 

He's an illusionist, couldn't he lure the ankhegs out with summoned fodder?

Edit - actually, I'm fairly certain that the "immunity to backstab" effect didn't exist back in BG1, so nothing was immune to it. They did make jellies immune to piercing weapons as a halfhearted countermeasure, though.

 

@Silverstar:
That's why I called it cheesy; you're not supposed to be able to, but you can.

@Prine:
All good points. Summoned fodder can attract an ankheg's attention, as well as any charmed (Algernon's cloak) creature. I'll have to remember that for my next thief solo.

And yes, I believe immunity to backstab didn't exist yet when they made BG1 or even TotSC. IIRC, it's one of the later opcodes (290-something?) even in BG2. One would think they would apply it in Tutu, though... The piercing immunity isn't in the MM, but it makes some small sense when applied to an amorphous creature.

 

Can you really solo the game without using cheese? I know that there are some serious fights ahead of me that used to wipe out my whole party on occasion. I don't see any way to get through this alone without using some serious cheese and a lot of foreknowledge. I am not above cheese as anyone who has read my posts will know, but is there seriously a way to solo without using cheese?

 

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With a M/T, it is less about cheese and more about the awesome power of invisibility. You have a wide range of means to become invisible at your disposal; practically none of your opponents have a way to rid you of that invisibility. That gives you total control over every encounter, if you plan well.

I've seen people comment on exploiting AI, but with invisibility on your side, there's not much to exploit. The best possible outcome for an opponent which cannot counter invisibility is to run away, and the game would be kind of boring if every enemy did that.

 

Well I am about ready to start Cloakwood mines. The wyvrens were tough to get through, alot of reloading before they all died, but I am now high enough level to cast the occasional improved invisibility which helps alot. I can't believe that I haen't been backstabbing all along with my theives, it is truly awesome.

 

Hello -

That's one of the nice things about soloing -- you really learn how to take a class to the limits of its abilities. And of all of them, I think thieves are the most fun, especially in BG1 where there isn't a lich or a beholder around every corner.