Europe vs America

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Yes, I am an idiot because I hurt your unlimited English pride.
You might offend me all you want, I am sure the fact you did bollocks in the War hurts much more than your petty insults anyway,

Iago,

Come on, you know this is a sophism. Ok, War was declared, but the fact the Axis could not bother to invade South America - and thus they withstood till the very end - makes them winners? I dont think so. Plus, as far as I am concerned, only a few South American countries entered in the War, like Brazil.
I was talking about contributing to german defeat...

 

You give attitude out, you have to expect it back. If you're alright with me, I'll be spot on with you, you act the **** giving it the big one with the attitude then you will get attitude back.

Who actually CARES who did what in the War? It was won, that's all there is to it. Britain protected itself from an air-force much larger than out own, and helped to liberate France and other European countries. There is no way the war could have been won without British and American help, that's the end of it.

Now I suggest you read a book called 'How to Make Friends and Influence People' .

 

You got me wrong. I dont feel offended by being called an idiot. As far as I care, you might give whatever attitude you fing appropriate.

Yes, the War would be won anyway. The Americans did help, but I am afraid the English only posed.

Why? Do you need it? I certainly dont. Actually, I abhor self help books.

 

You what?

That is incredibly disrespectful to the 60,000+ British army casualties and their families. Not to mention those that innocents who died in the air raids .

You've got a screw loose you have mate .

 

Oh, come on. British, as well as US and Soviets all had a great role in winning the war. Is worth to remember that the Brits stood alone against Hitler for a year or so (untill Germany attacked Russia). If the English would have folded, I doubt the US would have gotten into war (in Europe, at least). As about the Soviets... of course, they bore the brunt of the fighting on land, but one should not forget the enormous materiel support they got from the Western powers. I read somewhere that 90% of Red Army trucks were american made.

 

I am not offended.

Sorry, but it is an offense bringing up this number in face of 3 million dead Polish, almost 2 millions Jugoslavians and 27 millions Eastern Slavs - mostly civilians.
Was that supposed to be a joke?

Wait, it is you who needs self help books, not me.

 

Well Barmy, I am sure the British forces did this out of the goodness of their hearts, but I think the government had other ideas.

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And WW III begins on SP.

 

Which part of Tal's warning was not understood? All of you were warned that flaming would lead to this thread being closed. Some of you have been here long enough to know the rules, yet they are being blantantly ignored. All of you know the rules by now. Please follow them.

 

The war could not be won without UK: If UK had fallen, the germans could bring more forces to the eastern front (from ground troops to the squadrons, which were used for Germany's air defense), the german industrial activity would never face problems from the bombings, the americans would not have a base for their operations and the invasion of western europe could never take place.

The war could not be won without Soviet Union: The german army took the vast majority of its casualties in both men and equipment in the Eastern front and the soviet tanks were the only ones, which could face the german zoo.If Soviet Union had fallen, the western allies would have to face all the german army and not the reserve troops they faced during the first days of Operation Overlord, they would never achieve the critical total air superiority and Hitler would have a vast pool of resources.

The world could not be won without US: Without the american help and supplies UK would have to surrender due to starvation and lack of resources, without the american industry the allies would not have enough equipment to replace their losses and without the american army the opening of western front, for which Stalin was begging after the battle of Kurk could never happen.

I hope that the above will make all of you happy.

 

No! We won the War alone! LOL!

 

The Polish example was just that, an example. Sorry to offend. I easily could have picked a large number of nationalities that participated in the Holocaust.

And that really is the point. What do your living grandparents have to say about their actions during that time? Do they ever talk about it?

I have heard from American friends, whom I am sure have no more experience in these matters than I do, but regardless, they have said that history books in Europe seem to skip the years of 1935 to about 1945. My buddy made me smirk when he said in a blatantly awful German accent, "1938?...No, vee vere making pretzels then; I don'tz know vhat of you speak."

So I am just curious if that sort of purported white washing is really how the war is handled.