God Hates Gays...

DarthOne: While it might be an interesting thread to get opinions on why there is such a perception of hatred against our southern neighbours, this is not such a thread.

Further, it would not only be the zealots that oppose homosexuality, but the rank and file of the faithful. It is specifically pointed out in the doctrine of Christianity that it is to be opposed.

And as for rednecks, I don't think it's just the rednecks but all christians. Rednecks are a more recently defined subculture (not officially, but according to pop culture). If you want the truth about rednecks, listen to Jeff Foxworthy, and you'll see that there is a little redneck in all of us.

 

@Darth One: You hate people because they are from the country (rednecks) and you are from the town. You also hate people because they are zealously religious while you are not. How is that different from hating gay people when you are straight? What makes you better than the zealots are?

 

This site www.godhatesfags.com seems pretty kooky to me, especially after I read this whopper.

They also have some nice activist photos on their site Someone get them a straightjacket, and for good measure some heavy medication.

EDIT: Now these creeps are so crazy, can it possibly be real?

 

No Ragusa, they are for real. This is America: Land of the Televised Extremes!

 

Surely the life expectancy of these people is pretty short now. God help them if they ever run into Spellbound. She'd string them up for sure.

 

Could you just please just TRY explain me how I said these things in the first place ? I NEVER said that ! Rednecks are a bit everywhere ya know. They can be either from town or from outside of towns.

And btw I never said I was BETTER then them, just said I din't approve of their beliefs and/or of their ways of seeing life in general.

 

Harbourboy --

No words could describe the interaction that would ensue.

 

Actually, Ragusa, I wonder if other religions have made this groups naughty list for sending aid to those that got screwed over by Katrina?

If these guys really do have some clue about what they are talking about, then the stories about Mardi Gras must be false. Any city where women are encouraged to flash their breasts can't be all gay...

 

Spelly, I'd take a stab at "righteous retribution"... I'm guessing it would make "Dawn Of The Dead" look like "My Little Pony", huh?

@ Gnarff: Damn right. Anyone who can look at what's happened in New Orleans and say that sort of stuff is evidently not paying attention to reality. New Orleans during a festival is/was hardly a modest city, but I'm guessing that nothing short of absolutely piety would satisfy some of these folks.

It's sad how they've taken a tragedy and used it to advance a hateful, perverted agenda, and they'll probably take the response to their bile as proof of Earthly corruption. I've seen it all before, only in the ultra-Lefty groups at university. Secular or religious, self-righteous dickheads are still self-righteous dickheads.

 

Those crazy virgins running the show from the Vatican have gone and done it again! Apparently, homosexuals, even celibate ones, will no longer be able to be don the fabulous frock.

I'm going to have to do a little research to learn how they are going to enforce this policy. If a man does not have sex with anyone, how can he be gay? Will they watch his eyes to see what bums he peeps? Will they quiz him on his knowledge of similar yet differently named hues? If the standard is effeminate behavior, they are going to lose half of their clergy!

This should be interesting...well, not really actually...

Just Old Mother Church becoming more and more distant from Her children...

 

Erm. I've never had sex with anyone. Am I not straight because of this?

 

I think he was querrying how they would be able to tell if he was Gay or not if he was leading a celibate life.

I doubt in reality it will mean the slightest bit of difference. There has been enough examples of homo- and heterosexual paedophilia in the past then either a.) that priests don't always tell their superiors the truth or b.) If they do, then their superiors don't do anything about it. It's hardly as if they need to be told that this is wrong and perpetrators should be imprisoned... surely?

 

Agreed, Carcaroth. I also don't understand why the Catholic Church puts forth rules like this. Priests are supposed to be celibate. That means regardless of what your sexual affiliation is, you shouldn't be acting on it anyway.

Also, I believe Chev pointed out in previous posts (or was it Gnarff maybe?) that the Church is primarily opposed to acting on homosexual impulses. That homosexuals have this "cross to bear". The thinking being that it is one thing to have the urges to engage in homosexual conduct (which may or may not be of one's own choosing), but the actual act of engaging in homosexual conduct is definitely of one's own choosing.

My personal opinion is that straight priests probably do have heterosexual urges towards women, but aren't supposed to act upon them, and I see no reason why homosexual priests should be any different. Plus, if someone does not engage in any homosexual behavior, how could you prove that someone is a homosexual? (Which I believe is what was being pointed out.)

I also think that saying a lot of priests are gay is somewhat a streotypical response for the very reason that they aren't supposed to have sexual relations with women - or anyone else for that matter. It's that line of thinking - he doesn't have sex with women, so he must not be interested in women, so he must be gay. Which is obviously false in most cases. As chev correctly points out, if not having any sexual relations with women is sufficient criteria to be considered homosexual, then he would be a homosexual, which he clearly is not.

 

Perhaps. But is the Mother so much different now, or is society luring the kids away from home?

 

Aldeth,
you overlook that the Almighty has it all written in his golden book, and that St. Peter will read it to them sinners before he kicks them down that golden ladder to a very hot place, where they can spend out all eternity honoring the Lord and Maker in a literal lake of fire, Amen ...

There is no need for proof when there is absolute certainty. That must be one of the nicer aspects of being a raving lunatic.

 

@ Ragusa - amen brother

However, unless the pope/cardinals are going to go around and ask individually each priest if they are gay or straight, and then assume each priest will be truthful in their response, how would they know? Will they all be divinely inspired with a perfect sense of "gay-dar" that they will intuitively know?

 

An interesting excerpt from the NY Times article.

 

Required chastity has never been a good idea in the first place, and I'm talking for any kind of priest. The Bible clearly states that church officials (speaking of the early church here), not only shouldn't be celebate, but had to be, or have been, married, "...husband of but one wife,".

On the up side, at least they're finally starting to live by what they preach. A religious institution should strive to fill itself with people who obey its laws and, while no one is perfect, do not deliberately break them.

Sorry, all you catholics, but you've got problems.