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How should the U.S. respond?

Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by The Great Snook, May 11, 2004.

  1. Spellbound

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    Well, I didn't watch it and don't think I ever could bring myself to... for a couple of reasons. One, I don't think my breakfast would stay down....and...Two, for some reason I can't shake a deep rooted feeling that my viewing it validates the reason that it was made and gives these creatures the effect they're looking for -- to mock this man's death, in a sense. It's a violation of everything decent and I won't be a party to it -- even in the viewing of it.
     
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    Unfortunately I doubt that they would have even given him that concession.

    Fanatics like that do not care about such things as compassion, sympathy or kindness. All they care about is gaining as much twisted pleasure out of other people's suffering as they can.
     
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    Then again, it's also possible that it's not really that big of a crisis. In other words, nasty stuff happens in war and occupation, and that doesn't necessarily mean that the US is failing in Iraq. Militaries expect to work in crisis situations, hence popular use of US military slang like SNAFU and FUBAR, slang that I think was widely used even before WW2.

    So, as much as I think that Bush should be sent back to Texas or Connecticut or wherever he came from in November, and as much as I think that this war was waged on false pretenses, I'm still not at all convinced that the world won't end up a better place down the line because of the Iraq adventure.
     
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    Spellbound, I took no pleasure in seeing a human die. No at all. But maybe there is a lesson here? That there is a price to be paid when we mess with other cultures? Or perhaps that war does not bring peace and overall betterment of humanity?
    I dont know. Those murderers must be brought to justice. But watching this helps me realize that we are dealing with an alien people, it makes me understand what our (your) actions have created, that they utterly reject us and that we should act accordingly.
    Of course we can ignore what they want us to see, but we might fail to understand what they are prepared to do and that the western nations are in grave danger. In the long run. To hear about something isnt the same as seeing it with your own eyes.
     
  5. Spellbound

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    Dendri -- I understand your viewpoint, but to me -- I don't need to view horror to know that it's horror. There is no good that could come from me seeing it. They WANT it to be sensationalized... that's their goal.... for all Americans to see what an eye for an eye means. Well, I refuse. In my book, they're animals -- I don't need to see the proof.
     
  6. Takara

    Takara My goodness! I see turnips everywhere

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    Spelly, You just sumed up why I dont want to watch it. I've seen some unpleasent things, in medical programs and the like. But watching a person die, that's not something I want to view. More so, because it was made to make a point. My viewing it is what these people want. They want me to be revolted, and for their actions to be witnessed. I'm aware of how he died and I find it terribly sad. I dont need to see it with my own eyes to feel a sense of loss or horror.
     
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    [​IMG] Shock...

    [snip]

    I say no more...

    [Link removed because it contained a malicious installer in a pop-up.] -Tal

    [ May 16, 2004, 00:14: Message edited by: Taluntain ]
     
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    Well the picture with the British soldier doing the thumbs up next to two Iraqi kids, holding up that brown piece of cardboard is actually a fake. What the cardboard really says is what the soldier predicts the scores for the football clubs Gloucester and Cirencester to actually be. How do I know this? Well, that soldier is actually from Gloucester (I think) and that picture was in the local newspapers a day or so ago being used to talk about what the soldier predicted the football scores to be.

    Saying that, the other pictures aren't too pleasant reguardless of their validity
     
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