How to tell if a girl likes you...

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Spank em?

Not unless you have the Boots of Speed on. Ironskins might help otherwise (for when you get slapped back).
But then I dont know of any immunity to the Wail of Banshee which often follows either of these two actions.
Also the Summon Elminster (principal of college or cops) might get you into more trouble than you can manage.

@Kovalis
Cant answer your question coz I dont have any girlfriend currently.
However so long as you are not a complete geek (atleast dont look like it), dont smell (i'm serious here), are not afraid to beg (for forgiveness, which you will have to do numerous times regardless of your action or inaction) and own something cool that can be publicly flauntled (like a bike 9 times out of 10) you have a very good chance.

Also giggling is a sure give away of interest in you. Just be sure to conform which one of them actually has fallen for you else you will end up

 

Morningstar, is this the scotish approach to the problem?
Well, maybe I should give it a try...

 

Seriously, I don't recommend the spanking one. It may work, if you have known the girl and know that she's a perv, otherwise you'll end up in a hospital or a police station.

 

First of all does she tries to keep alive any conversation you two might have?
Does she laughs at your jokes? does she crosses her arms over her breast when she is talking to you (this is not so good, she understood you like her and she does not want something more than friendship)? does she avoids or "unconsciously" wants body contact (i mean touching hands and things like that)? These are some questions you must have an answer to, in order to understand if she likes you or not

 

@Eze, Fabius Maximus:

He probably used spanking as a metaphor. It's perfectly true for most women that being miserable and being done bad unto are the bases of attraction in females. This, of course, sucks and long live the gents. Period.

However, let's please stick to the topic instead of making it a general discussion of attraction. It's not an academic issue, the guy really has a problem and needs 'tangible' help and not random musings of all of us.

 

@chev: I never really considered to use this option. I to shy and to much gentleman for it anyway.
Well, I'm in an situation similar to Kovalis. Except, the lady is 25 and well past the "giddy" phase (although a little giddyness can be attractive). Anyway, a lot of hints here were helpfull and I think I will "go for it".

 

Hm, America and other countries are so different than ours when it comes to pick up girls it seems.

I talked to a girlfriend of mine and she told her that she rarely did any of those when she was in love.

 

This is from my female point of view:

It depends on what social standing the girl has. Popular girls tend to be the girls that might tell a guy, but they usually hang out around him, always on the fringes of what he's doing. They also giggle a lot when he's around. Also, they doodle his name around, and yes, on their hands as well, as Silverwolf said. They laugh at his jokes even if they're not funny, and you can always tell when they're flirting.

Girls with a lower social standing (like me) scribble a crazy enigmatic little drawing that has his name somewhere in it, however it's in a form of hieroglyphics unknown to man. We also seat ourselves behind him in classes, so we can see him but not vis versa. Sometimes we can scrounge up enough courage to tell him we like him, and act like we don't care when he says 'no'.

Both 'class' of girl will try to come up with a topic to talk to him about. It's usually weak.

 

Actually Valkyrie has a very good point. Girls who are over-confident in their belief that guys will like them no matter what are more the type to follow that list I wrote up. So some of the girls I knew followed that list to the exact detail but with my closer, more anti-social (but ironcially smarter) friends you wouldn't be able to tell in a million years if they liked you because they're too afraid of you finding out. Whereas the girls who are all infatuated etc, secretly want the guy to figure it out and do something about it. So for instance these two friends of mine almost always had crushes on the same guy but he was the kind of boy who's really good-looking, super-popular, and 3 years older (and wouldn't ever know that they were there) so they were very good at not letting anyone know about it. Whereas 2 others of my friends probably mentally wrote up that list and followed it step by step. . . I would be like my shyer friends but I always fall for my best guy friends so it was more of me slowly flirting with them till they caught on.

 

@Chev: Not a metaphor, I'm too simple for that stuff (A reason for the spanking).

Actually I don't really spank them, I just tell them I fancy them and hope for the best, its just easier that way.

 

In many cases, yes. Depends what you really want. Oh well, but if she reacts positively to something like that, she must be heavily infatuated

Edit: New thought, you know. The matter isn't really if she likes you. Most of your friends like you. The same way as though you were another girl. Love, do you believe in it? Come on, we're not in Faerun. Attraction, surely. You'll always tell - above they gave nice outlines of the art. What really matters is if she respects you. At this very present moment I'm trying to recall ever encountering any who would keep her word. I'll tell you if I succeed.

[ August 25, 2003, 03:29: Message edited by: chevalier ]

 

Love? Love! Arrest that man at once. Love is not important! It is tactics and timing that will get the job done! You must remove every last trace of emotion from your being! If you want to get a date, you have to become a date! (or something).

On the subject of timing, always remember that your odds for success will be considerably improved if the target in question actually feels like going out and having a bit of fun and is not 'under the weather'.

The amount of visible skin on said target is normally the best indicator of the target's desire to have said fun. Your most advantageous window of oppurtunity lasts for no more than two weeks in every month.

Remember, fun is fun, love is terrifying.

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Something I heard somewhere, a person is more likely to be attracted to you in a dangerous situation. Work with this a bit and you'll either end up killing her or dating her

 

Aikanaro is very right. Listen to him, he's quite promising. Given his young age at this present moment, he's going to rival the legendary chevalier before he hits his halfway

Nah, but let us get serious, if for a while. Adrenaline (here it's also called the hormone of fight or run) is one of the most potent aphrodisiacs. In fact, it sometimes makes complete strangers mate together, which they regret till the end of their days. There are situations where you're not fighting a commie regime, saving the world until next Monday or running from a psychotic cult, where it may help you, too. There simply must be some danger in the air. Apart from the wide-known fact that they flock to doomed men, outlaws and other scum, they simply enjoy the raw fun, if you know what I mean. They love to feel the thrill. Of course, playing a lost boy in distress who needs a mighty heroine to save him is low and makes you sit in the toilet and dress in pink after a while. But the so-adored badass bastard attitude? Sure, why not... Speak softly and show your fangs. Until you get dead-bored, that is.

 

OK, as I am one of the ones here that actually have a g/f AND are in the American high-school age(16 years) I can check if I can help you, but first I need some answers:

1. Is he a "popular" girl?

2. Is she a snob?

If the answer of any of these is yes, stop already. This is because if they are popular, they are usually screwing with the first hot subject they can find, even if it isn't you.

If they are snobs, they will cost you more than your internet service, and it ain't worth it.

I would like to say, be a really serious friend with her and have patience. After a month or two of serious friendship you will immediatly understand if she likes you, and if she don't; finds someone else or keep trying until she gives up.(Not Recommended!)

Spanking is totally out of the question if she isn't popular and bragging is totally forbidden.

And if you listens to pop like Backstreet Boys or Britney Spears, never invite her home. Also, you should never tell the truth if she asks you what kind of music you likes. Say something odd, like Country(due to that shows that your are different from other persons) or groovy, like Reggae(See above parantheses).

Also, sex is forbidden before marriage IMHO, and so it should be for you too, at least if she asks you.

Now I think I have covered the basics so good luck with you chick-catching. PLay safe, play my way.

 

What is that Velve, four easy steps to cripple a guy's chances?

Its Ok to spend more than two dollars a day on a girl. Apparently some blokes even pay for the girls movie ticket (but that could be just hearsay).

Stay the hell out of the friend zone. It should not take more than two minutes to clear the air, not two torturous months.

You are pushing to far ahead Velve. The operative can field any opputunities that present themselves, because he is not going to marry this one, or the one after that, or even the one after that. It won't be sex before marriage, it will be sex before trading up.

Country music? You have got to be kidding. Don't ever admit to that. Not to your doctor, not to your priest, and most of all not to a girl you are trying impress.

This next bit may seem a little personal and only applies to those readers of sixteen years old and above. Since Velve was kind enough to share this with the group,

If your girlfriend asks you for sex, force yourself. It might not be as bad as you think!

 

I do. Because this is the right thing. It increases your chances for next date for obvious reasons, but ultimately reveals you as an outdated goody loser, so you get no chance of any relationship (you know, you lack the 'thing'). She will, of course, still try to get a free ride every now and then as though that were the most normal thing in the world. After a few more 'modernistic' guys who truly have the 'thing', she will try to come back for good. By all good and holy, don't let her. Ever. They don't improve, they learn they can count on another chance from that moment on. Of course, I still refuse to change.

 

Don't get me wrong, I do spend money on my girlfriend, even more than I spend on myself, but I mean REAL snobs like a rich mans daughter.

Also, I have had sex, but this was before I became a christian. And she will respect you more if you say no to sex, at least the first couple of times. Then you can give up, if you want to. I don't recommend that you give up, but that is just me.

And isn't sex before the age of 18 illegal in most states in FSA? Is CA one of them?

And country music was just an example. I like Swedish Socialistic Punk and that my g/f have learned to like as well. She have said that one reason that she likes me is that I am odd, very odd, and isn't so mainstream. The worst thing you can be is mainstream.

And I was friend with my g/f for a month or so before we became a couple, and that shows who's right. I have been together with her for 6 month now, and that's my longest relationship so far.

 

First of all I would like to apoligize for "forgetting" about this post. Wow, I must have been really tired when I posted this one!
I would like to thank you all for you helpful advice, "tips, and strategies". Another question I have some trouble with is how long should you be in the "friends" stage with the girl you like before you pop the question?

Ok, heres my plan: Diplomatic bluntness.(Ill just tell her I like her and try my best to stay calm and not be nervous{cuz i am nervous quite often}, and then I'll see what she says and ask her what she thinks about me, if it is anything close to positive I will consider asking her on a date) Hope it works, thanks again everyone for the advice, it helps! It also gives me confidence, something I sometimes find myself sorely lacking.
Ok, more questions: 1. Before what age is sex illegal in California? 2. What is considered "illegal sex"? 3. Would showing off my six pack to the girl be a plus or just make me look like a stupid, stuck up a**?(well, its not really that great cuz im so skinny, but I am trying to gain wait)

[ August 25, 2003, 19:07: Message edited by: Kovalis Darkfire ]

 

Diplomatic bluntness is the best idea. Remember you can dispense with the games, but you can't dispense with courtesy and respect. Many girls love the raw excitement of being approached like hookers, but that's not the kind of girl you want.

There's no rule about how long you should be friends before asking the question. I usually give it to understand that I'm not going to be a 'just friend', but I don't come up with the question early. In my case, the question serves to confirm what's going on and not initiate anything. Some other people prefer normal, casual friendship until some two months, but in that case she may well get a boyfriend, even a steady one. Wasting so much time? Oh, please. Of course, too early isn't good either, so you should rather get a date or two before coming up with serious dialogue. If you see her daily, you can wait two or three weeks before adding some meaning to dates. Generally, you shouldn't wait even one second with asking out for a date, it's actually the most normal and natural form of social interaction between a male and a female. You must be certain, but not overly self-confident. She must see that you don't really think she will refuse, but she can't have the impression that you take her 'yes' as granted. And she'd better realise that you can and will get any other single girl if she doesn't go with you (that's where I screw up most often, thanks to my deeply compassionate and honest nature). When you get a date or two, come back to my post early in this thread about checking if she's attracted to you. Generally deeds speak louder than words, so don't babble too much but show some affection rather than sing the praise thereof. Before anyone flames me: showing affection is not the same as unleashing basic instincts.