I always said domestic cats were only good for target practice!

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What? Yeah, maybe mountain lions and lynxes.

In any case none of that matters:
Cat lovers purring over Wisconsin governor

The proposal was, "dead on arrival."

 

See? Told ya rabbits totally kick ass.

[ Get over yourself. ] - Beren

[ April 20, 2005, 08:34: Message edited by: Beren ]

 

LOL.... ...rabbits with developed weapons of mass-destruction hunting men....

 

Edit: on second thought, this conversation is so aggravating and pointless, my previous comment is stricken.

[ April 20, 2005, 20:38: Message edited by: ArtEChoke ]

 

I don't think I have to say anything about my feelings for cats....

Just remember we are among you....

Tried that in Texas....lookee what happened...they migrated to Chicago....

 

My five cats have all been indoor cats, and like Darkwolf said in another post, I have a responsibility to give them a high-quality of indoor life. Which I fulfill with three carpeted cat "jungle gyms" that they can play on, climb, scratch, and chase each other around on. They also have a lot of toys, catnip, plastic balls and springs etc. Combined with a good diet and loving attention, they are perfectly content and don't even try to go outside.

My neighbours' cats are always trying to get into my house, although mine are fixed so it's not like they smell a female in heat or anything like that. Nearly all the screens on my windows have been shredded by other people's cats gouging them from the outside. If I knew who owned the cats, I could maybe take action to recoup the cost of the damage, but the cats don't wear collars so I have no idea who is responsible.

They also poop in my vegetable garden, and since cat poop carries a parasite that can kill or disable an unborn child, this means I could neither eat my home-grown foods nor work in my garden while pregnant. A lot of gardeners sprinkle cayenne pepper to keep cats out of the garden, but cats can get the pepper in their eyes and blind themselves scratching it out, so I don't do that. It's not the cats' fault their owners are irresponsible pet-owners and bad neighbours.

But you know what I don't hesitate to do? Catch cats on my property, take them to the vet's at my own expense if they are injured or sick (which outdoor cats always seem to be), and then give them to the animal shelter. I know a lot of cat owners are outraged by this, but the heck with them. If their kids were vandalising my property, I'd call the cops. Since it's their cats vandalising my property, I deliver them to the Humane Society, where at least they have the chance of being adopted by a civilised and responsible person.

If you want to have a pet, take care of it, and don't let it become a nuisance to anyone else. End of story. I don't shoot cats but if one of my cats got onto someone else's property and was shot causing damage, I'd accept that it was my own fault for not keeping my cat home.

 

I personally have always thought a good cat is a dead cat.

For your enjoyment [snip]

[You'd have to be pretty sick to enjoy that.] -Tal

EDIT- Tal has no sense of humor. It was a link to a flash game where you shoot a cat out of a cannon.

[To have it splatter into a bloody pulp on a number of spikes sticking out the floor. Very funny. Not.] -Tal

[ April 27, 2005, 15:48: Message edited by: Taluntain ]

 

You know what Sprite, I think you inspired me! Seriously! I have not seen a cat lurking in my back yard in some time now, but with summer coming on I am sure that I will see more. I think I will buy a humane animal trap, and deliver any cats that start frequenting my yard to the Humane Society.

With five new houses going up right now within sight of my house, I just can't continue to shoot them.

Thanks! And thank your for being what I consider to be a great pet owner. You can be my neighbor any time (except for that fact that I don't think you want to move to the US), and if my karma is to live my next life as a cat, I hope it is as one of your cats.

 

Ummm...its a cat...

 

It amazes me how much I see of people like The Great Snook, who really have no respect for animal life -- who would actually get enjoyment out of seeing an animal killed -- or would like to watch a game of it on their screen. That scares me a great deal. I feel very sorry for you Snook. It's so sad.

 

Tal, remember that I'm talking about a very big city with lots of traffic, as well as a country with very cold winters, so maybe your experience is different, but illness and injury in the outdoor cats in this neighbourhood are definitely the norm. Most of the cats roaming the streets in my neighbourhood have signs of frostbite and often have injured paws from trying to claw their way into a warm place. My husband brought in a cat that had lost both ears and his tail to frostbite and had had all its front teeth knocked out. It wasn't a stray - he knew who the owner was in that case but refused to return the cat since it was obviously being ill-cared for. Several times now pregnant cats left outside overnight have had kittens in my shed because it was the only shelter they could find, and the kittens had weeping infected eyes and horrendous parasite infestations by the time I found them. If you don't think that's an uncivilised and irresponsible way for people to look after their pets, then we have very different definitions of what constitutes acceptable treatment of animals.

But I agree with you on declawing. I think it should be illegal to cut a cat's fingers off.

 

Not all indoor cats are declawed. I've had all indoor cats that have never been maimed in that way (and yes, I don't have the prettiest furniture around). I also know quite a few vets who refuse to do the surgery, as it is considered "maiming" by them. I do know a few families who have had it done -- I voice my opinion to them and try to deter them -- but in the end it's the owner's ultimate choice -- and one I'll never agree with.

 

Off topic, but what people enjoy in a game--even a flash game--can be quite different from what they enjoy IRL.

See: Postal, Grand Theft Auto, Carmaggedon, etc.

I giggle when I dismember a pedestrian in Carmaggedon. I sure as hell wouldn't giggle if I actually hit a pedestrian with my real car.

 

Gee! I feel silly. When I saw the topic, I thought we were talking about fairly large and wild cats, like mountain lions, pumas...

 

Oh nice job AMaster. I was going to use "Flash" games as my excuse to go "Columbine on the boards" and now you ruin my defense .

In all honesty, I will admit I consider humans on the top of the food chain. If I ever have to make a decision between a human and an animal (even a beloved pet) the human wins. I have a friend who was seriously injured in a car accident as he swerved and rolled his car (a VW bug) in an attempt to save the life of a "dumb cat" that ran out into the road. I would have just run the stupid thing over. If that means I have no respect for animal life than so be it. I have more respect for human life.

However, to ease the concerns of our animal loving friends, the next time I play NWN I will try to use non-violent means to combat the animals that attack in the wilderness (bears, wolves, etc.). Although I may still go after the ones with the word "dire" in front of their names, as I think that means they are evil.

 

Are you suggesting that you eat cats?!?