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Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Night_Heaven, Mar 15, 2006.

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    Why does it block out other protective spells? I can always stick a stoneskin after the PfMW, but not the reverse. Just my preference.
     
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    Finally found what I was looking for. :) PfMW does not allow these spells - Absolute Immunity, Prot. from Normal Weapons, Mantle and Imp. Mantle - to be cast after it. I find the other spells more useful than PfMW.
     
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    Yes but PfMW does,with the same duration, ALL of what the spells you mentioned can do ;)

    Except from prot.f.normal weapons.But is there a tough enemy in the game who is using normal weapons ?
     
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    ^Yep, and after you become immune to normal weapons thanks to tests, you will never need another spell of this type. Mantle, Improved Mantle and even uber Absolute Immunity are all rubbish when you are already immune to normal weapons. And they are of higher level too! :p
     
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    All right, I'll just say it - my mages don't get into positions where they get attacked with any sort of weapons (normal or magical). Because I use mages as bombadiers, they stay out of the melee and find PfMW completely useless to memorize. If you find it fun to put your mage(s) (if not soloing) on the front lines to poke enemies with a stick...have fun then. I don't and think it's a worthless spell. So there. :p
     
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    Yes. You are right. I know what you mean, for once I thought PfMW was utter rubbish, I mean, the duration was 4 rounds, so sucky!

    Then I got 30+ mods and encountered terrible enemeis who can dispel per hit, drain 5 levels per hit with 4 attack per round, or other enemies who have so many attacks per round to dispel your stoneskins/mirror images fast. Pure tanks do not stand a chance to survive against them.

    But a caster, protected by Pro from MW, can stay there and laugh as Improved Bodhi goes 'weapon ineffective' or that willy Wizard Slayer launches dispelling arrows which never makes contact or a slightly smarter lich decides to throw a lot of MMMs in between his spells! :thumb:
     
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    Hello after a long time. I keep play this game and I finnaly reach the surface.I finnaly get out of the Underdark and my party is now more strong than ever.it was very hard to get out of that city with drows.I have enough of it. And the white dragon is a good dragon too.She offer me a way out of this and I have recovered her eggs.A nice story indeed. THOSE MINDFLYERS give me a...a...GRRRR.
    Now I belive I will do new quests and I will finish some of the old ones.
    As ussual I have some questions:
    Can I trust those surface elves?They keep asking me all those questions and don't answer at mine...
    Do I have to fight Bodhi?THAT BODHI? How am I suppose to beat her?Holy water dosen't work.
    I have to say I am not quite happy I don't face off with Irenicus.He is all the time one step in front of me.
    How do I use the collars left for me from the cave with Mindflayers?I mean I will found again that kind of creatures?
    Bye bye
     
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    Felinoid Who did the what now?

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    Well, I wouldn't trust them, but for the moment your goals and theirs are the same. Do what they say and play the pawn like you're supposed to.
    Yes, THAT Bodhi. Just beat her as you would any other vampire: NPP to avoid level drain and whack away.
    He does lead you on a merry little chase, doesn't he? But you will have your revenge eventually... :evil: (Remember BG1 and Sarevok? Well, same goes for SoA and Irenicus...but with a twist. :grin: )
    Use them like you did before, equipping in a quick item slot and using it on an enemy. And while you may run into more mindflayers, the collars can be used on anybody. It makes for a nice little Dominate item. :D
     
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    You both have an enemy in Irenicas, so help them. And get used to people aking questions and not answering yours

    It'd be too easy if you could use holy water. Just think of her as a super vampire

    That dissapointed me too, but good villians are always a step ahead of you.

    You'll find more, but they work on anybody. Put them in your quick-item slot and use it on an enemy and they are under your control.

    You're doing good! And remember those loading screens that said the Adventurers Mart restocked? Well, just go check, and ask for the good stuff.
     
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    Holy water + blood = weak vampire. A hint, I'm just saying. :holy:
     
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    Be thankful that you don't have to face Improved Bodhi from my mods, she is a terror to behold, with a lot of unique spell-like abilities and vastly improved combat abilities to boot. (aka:Human Shredder or Walking Ice Cube) Normal, unmodded, vanilla Bodhi is a complete wimp compared to her.

    So just get Protection from Negative Energy, with spell or items, and hack her away, she is an easy fighter opponent who doesn't even drink healing potions. Be sure to use holy water on those blood pools nearby, IIRC, otherwise she will have a high regenration rate you will find unpleasant.

    Tip:Lower Resistance three times, Greater Malison her, add a couple dooms, then release A LOT OF Flame Arrows on her via triggers, sequencers, they should by now do at least 15d6 damage each, you can stick 6 of them in sequencers, 90d6 damage will cripple her fast! And she will most likely fail her saves often, AFAIK she has a save vs spells of 5, you can make it 11 or even worse with GM+dooms!

    Me, meh, I just disintegrated her into a pile of dust in the very last battle before that annoying Drizzt was able to kill her. She is WEAK, do not worry! But iironically worths 90K XP so do not let Drizzt or anybody deal the finishing blow, or you will miss the nice XP!

    In normal game, Bodhi's real power is not fighting, it is controlling others, luring and plotting.
     
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    Silverstar, would you please delete that? I really think he'd like to try without so many spoilers, then afterwards, if he fails, he can ask for all those spoilers.
     
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    God,this game is soo...ARGGGHH.I have no ideea Viconia will turn in to a vampire and fight against me...Why this happend all the time?I just can keep my party in control...I have the corpse of Viconia and I am suppose to get her at a temple for ressurection or something..
    The fight with Bodhi was HARD. Even with the use of holy water on the pools was not an easy fight and Bodhi is tough...I get helped by some party but I don't know their names--adventurers like me!
    I finnaly beat Bodhi but she has done what she came for---my love is dead,my party again split(the same thing happend with Yoshimo too...AHH)
    I have done a few quests but now I am about to enter in a great city of the surfacer elves and still I can't bring Viconia back to life... I understand from all writings that a temple of Light is the temple where you can bring Viconia's back to normal ...I just know from my travels that Amunator was the son or god of the Light but his temple is in ruin now...how can someone help me there?I will still look for some answers myself but at least I am doing the right thing?
    I will not enter in Sunnselendar( I think this is the name) without Viconia however
    I work hard on this game but I think I will never end it...For about 3 or 4 weeks every day and still not finish it...I lose my confidence..And Irenicus still in front of me...
     
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    you are in the right track, take her body over there, there is no one there though, just look for the statue ;)
     
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    Err, sorry if I spoiled Bodhi battle, but you seem to be having fun, don't lose your hope and confidence, you are close to kick JonBon's butt! Really!

    As for Viccy, you CAN turn her back into lovely drow form, be sure you read the vampire story books in Bodhi's lair, they tell you exactly what you need to cure a newly afflicted from vampirism!
     
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    I hated it when Jaheira turned all vampire on me. It took me forever to get her back to normal. Just put her fate in the arms of the god ;) . Hang in there your almost done. Well, with Shadows of Amn anyway...
     
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    ````If you want to figure it out for yourself, don't read any further!`````
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    Okay, here's how to revive Viconia (or any romance partner): North of Umar Hills, there's a place called Temple Ruins. It's on the game map. You went there to find Mazzy Fentan and what was going on with the town of Immesvale. Get Viconia's body, Bodhi's heart and those 3 books you found in her lair. Travel to the Temple Ruins, go to the place with the light crystal and go downstairs. (This is easier if you cleared out the dungeon before.)

    Remember that room with the letters on the floor? Go across it. I send my character, the PC, with the body, the heart and the books. There is a little room to the left with a statue of a woman with her arms open. You can click on it. Put Viconia's body and the heart inside the statue. Presto! Viconia is revived and will have some dialogue to join the party.
     
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