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If gandalf and elminster fight....

Discussion in 'Whatnots' started by The Fat Egg, Oct 9, 2000.

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    Feist rocks!, although i think that any of the three wizards other than pug being debated could just flat out kick his ass
     
    The Fat Egg, Dec 17, 2000
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    I would probably say Gandalf initially too, but there are a few things overlooked about Elminster. One, no one knows if he mortal or immortal because he has been alive for 500+ years, but then again, he himself thinks he is mortal. Second, he is mystra's chosen and as such will probably become a god himself once he dies (because of Mystra's sponsership). So would he come back and take revenge once he is a God??? Now that would be an interesting battle.

    Man, it has been along time since I have read Tolkien. And what would happen if you threw Raistlin Majere into the mix????
     
    EternalPaladin, Dec 18, 2000
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    you bring up an interesting point, what if elminster, gandalf, sarauman, pug, and raistlin would have an every man for himself battle, who owuld win?
     
    The Fat Egg, Dec 18, 2000
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    Please forgive me if I'm wrong as I haven't read the Tolkien books in a while, Might start the Hobbit tonight, but wasn't Sarauman the guy in the tower when the tree giant guy things attacked. If he was then he would be first to go. Pug would win for sure, but I'm a big Feist fan and my vision may be clouded by my admiration for his great books. Have any of you givin a thought to Tomas. I know he isn't really a mage but he is kind of a multi-classed fighter/mage.
     
    Silver Dragon, Dec 20, 2000
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    Hey Fat Egg, I don't quite understand your post. Are you saying that Pug would be beaten by any of the three wizards, or are you saying he could beat all three.
     
    Silver Dragon, Dec 20, 2000
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    pug would be beaten, he rocks, but the other wizards just seem stronger, sarauman was the leader of gandalf's order, but gandalf was stronger and defeated him.
     
    The Fat Egg, Dec 21, 2000
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    Hmm, maybe... Nah, Pug would Kick ass. Gandalf was only good enough to draw with a balrog and at best his power doubled after that. Sarauman lost to him and Elminster isn't that powerful.
     
    Silver Dragon, Dec 21, 2000
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    Bah, yoda could wipe the floor with them all
     
    Septic Yogurt, Dec 25, 2000
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    Bullsh*t, Yoda sucks.
     
    Silver Dragon, Jan 14, 2001
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    Tal, Gandalf was fighting GOBLINS! ORCS came out in Lord of the Rings. In the misty Mountains in THE HOBBIT he killed GOBLINS with his flash spell thingy!
     
    Sniper, Jan 14, 2001
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    Eh. Go read it again. The whole mountain was full of orcs, and he fought orcs, I'm pretty sure about it. But I don't care enough to go look for it in the book, so just take my word for it.
     
    Taluntain, Jan 14, 2001
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    Ah heck! I'll check it in a mo
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    Ok i've checked and its goblins! But whats the point of arguing? Lets just say i won that one eh? :D
     
    Sniper, Jan 14, 2001
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    Someone please check that for me... I wanted to do it myself but I packed The Hobbit in a box with 50 other books on top of it and REALLY don't want to unpack the whole thing.
     
    Taluntain, Jan 14, 2001
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    Bah! Elminster nor Gandalf could stand up to....

    Wicket!

    Thrown rocks beat magic all the time!! :D
     
    Wildfire, Jan 14, 2001
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    As for Tolkein's books and monsters, what were once goblins in The Hobbit, seemed to be refered to as orcs in The Lord of the Rings. That was an inconsistancy that irritated me. As for Saruman VS Gandalf, I have a definitive quote from the Wise & Grey himself, "Behold, I am not Gandalf the Grey, whom you betrayed. I am Gandalf the White who has returned from death. You have no colour now, and I cast you from the order and the Council", He raised his hand and spoke slowly in a clear cold voice, "Saruman, your staff is broken", there was a crack, and the staff split asunder in Saruman's hand, and the head of it fell down at Gandalf's feet. With a cry Saruman fell back and crawled away. A bit lengthy, but it's clearly defined. Perhaps in his prime, Saruman would prevail; as I have read, he was a formidable mage. But it appears that his lust for power defeated him in the end. My knowledge of Elminster is limited to BG 1&2. That being my only D&D experience other than a selection of Dragonlance wolumes. My admiration for Gandalf runs deep and any call I'd make on this matter would be heavily biased. So I'll leave it at that.
     
    The Wise The Grey, Jan 15, 2001
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    I've read 2 'Elminster books' and that bastard seems to be god-like, not a mighty wizard like Gandalf.
     
    Shura, Jan 15, 2001
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    Ok Tal, the goblins i refer to are the orcs you refer to. So thats settled...right?
     
    Sniper, Jan 15, 2001
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    god damn, shura is right, elminster has died like 20 times and is always ressurected, if it were impossible to ressurect elminster, then either gandalf, or maybe, just maybe, pug would win, oh, and it was goblins.
     
    The Fat Egg, Jan 15, 2001
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    I must admit I think Edwin would be able too kick everyones ass if he just got his damn 2000 years and a pointy hat!
     
    Divine Shadow, Jan 15, 2001
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    Xan's got no chance (he's a poof)
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    Dyhnier is dead...Edwin killed her didn't he?
     
    Sniper, Jan 15, 2001
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