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Iraq: Smoking Gun Found...Does It Matter Now?

Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by Death Rabbit, Apr 7, 2003.

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  1. Blackthorne TA

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    Nope, in this case the probation officer is the UN, and the coalition is the police officer.
     
    Blackthorne TA, Apr 10, 2003
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    Uhm ... did I miss the UN approving that war? I mean it was a very unsmart move of the US to urge for a second resolution only to skip it when it became obvious that the US and UK wouldn't get a majority.

    It is kinda "un-credible" to withdraw then on the point of view that the first resolution had authority enough to go for war. So in this case the UN was not really the probation officer.
     
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    No, see the probation officer is the guy checking on you to make sure you're following the restrictions of your probation; therefore the UN checking on Iraq to make sure they're complying with the resolutions.

    The police officer in this case is the coalition who upon seeing the criminal breaking his probation, brings him to justice.

    [Edit] Ack! How lame do I feel for having to explain my metaphor? :lol:

    [ April 10, 2003, 21:38: Message edited by: Blackthorne TA ]
     
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    Excuse me BTA but i can't understand which probation exactly Saddam broke, or at least the evidence he broke his probation where are they; Did he attacked a country; Don't tell me about human rights violations every country has dirt in this sector. Tell me something about the disarmament violation.
     
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    Surprise, what surprise ? They knew it all along, it was just not the right time to make a fuss about it.

    I.E. some South Koreans and Japanese might think it's offensive, that some other country interferes with their approach on how to deal with North Korea.

    Besides, the point is, it's not possible to stop China and India from growing to superpowers. Nor is it possible to avert any country, who reaches that state of development, to research Nuclear Energy. This Research may be used to build Nuclear weapons or to build nuclear powerplants.

    It's like chemicals. Are this chemicals for medicine or shampoos, or are the for WMD's. It's pretty hard to decide, because chemical components have usually no say in how they're going to be used.

    [ April 11, 2003, 15:55: Message edited by: Yago ]
     
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    Mithrantir - If you believe Iraq was living up to its agreements with the UN, exactly why do you think economic sanctions were imposed on them by the UN?

    Yago - No, it was a surprise, because there was a framework under which North Korea agreed not to pursue nuclear weapons technology in return for "safer" technology nuclear reactors and shipments of fuel oil until they were built. Since they made this agreement, and were also part of the nuclear nonproliferation treaty, it was most assuredly a surprise.

    By the way, India and Pakistan are not part of the NPT, so they are not under its constraints, and China was a nuclear power before the NPT.
     
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