Is This Man Cheating on His Wife?

@TMH: The IOTW plaque doesn't discredit a poster, it's simply recognition for the job of discrediting that you've already done on your own.

BTW, 137 posts in 22 months as a registered member of the BoM does NOT qualify you as a "diligent poster." Repeatedly trying to ram your opinions down others' throats while refusing to extend them the courtesy of considering what they have to say also isn't diligence, it's mere stubbornness. You would do well to realize that conversation is not a competitive sport.

[ August 27, 2007, 14:52: Message edited by: Rallymama ]

 

@Drew (indirectly, also Gnarff):

Actually, wouldn't be so sure. Adultery would have to be something sexual, while broader infidelity perhaps not really. Well, you could extend "coveting" to include non-sexual coveting as well, as in lust for goods, but I don't think it would make adultery.

 

I'd be careful with phrases like "for the christians" and "from a christian perspective".
There are so many christian communities which believe differently (some might even allow freedom of thougtht or other strange things )

PS: By using such phrases you are also implying that someone who thinks differently is no christian.

 

Not really. Unless you're only Christian if you have a perfectly Christian opinion on everything. Then you could say you are only Christian if you only ever exhibit Christian behaviours. And so on. That way few people would be Christians.

 

I think the situation described above would also be considered a violation of Jewish marriage vows.

 

I think any vows where you say you won't leave the spouse and will forsake all others.

 

Mont:

What rules have I broken?

Frankly, I'm proud to receive the 'Idiot of the Week' award. I'm essentially a matyr for truth now. In fact, I'm going to be even more blunt and direct, to live up to my reputation of 'warrior for truth' (or as the smear campaigners label me: Idiot).

How's that for backfire!

[As far as famous last words go, pretty bland. But hey... -Tal]

[ August 28, 2007, 12:41: Message edited by: Taluntain ]

 

OK, I've had a bit of time to check in here, and so I'll say this:

Am I the only one who finds TMH's posts (and the associated responses) entertaining? TMH is clearly here only to create trouble. And the good people of SP have fallen for it hook, line, and s(t)inker. Well, maybe just "hook". After all, someone (it might have been DR) previously suggested that TMH was a "fake poster". As if that wasn't totally obvious.

Let's be honest - it's been fun, in a frustrating sort of way. And who might this fake poster be? Well, The Mountain Hare. Death Rabbit. I'm just sayin'. (Actualy, I suspect Shralp, to be honest.)



Edit: with apologies to dmc and his edit above. I suspect this post will be deleted anyway.

 

How about this, people.

If you don't like what I have to say, and you genuinely think I am trolling, then put me on your 'Ignore List'. If I am indeed a troll, the worst punishment for me is simply to ignore my statements. Giving someone an 'Idiot Plaque' merely provokes them further, troll or non-troll.

What's funny is that a particular poster PM'ed me to state that he'd reported me, and placed me on his ignore list. I find it fascinating that the same people who scream about my 'trolling' (?) are willing to further provoke my wrath.

And surely, if I'm on your ignore list, why do you need to run to the mods like a whiny little bitch? What exactly does that achieve? So that they can get the last word? Get a little bit of vengeance on a poster who handed their ass to them? Good job, whiny little troll. Go cry in a corner.

 

Hmm.....well, when I view the passage in Matthew and other, similar passages, which claim that by thinking about committing adultery, you have already committed adultery in your own heart, I get a somewhat different impression, but I suppose it isn't necessarily all that cut and dry....and I certainly didn't mean to imply that someone who disagrees with such an assertion isn't a "real" Christian (especially given my status as a militant agnostic).

 

imo, it's cheating. He's got an "actual" wife, so he should be sharing his emotions with her. kinda sad actually, heh.

 

@Drew:

Thinking about committing adultery - as in a choice to engage in fantasies, not as in a momentary biological reaction over which you don't have control - counts. But if you go around pretending you're married in some game, it's possible it doesn't happen. Maybe in that game where they have strippers and all sorts of visually represented debauchery, yeah. But consider the Sims... would it necessarily invoke sexual lust if two people played each one character in the Hot Date expansion? Not like I'd think it proper for married people anyway. I'm just reluctant to jump to conclusions over the gaps.

 

Ah....here's where we differ. See, I don't buy for a second that this guy isn't fantasizing about this lady. I don't think he's being honest about it being "just a game" to him. I also don't buy that there's never been any cyber-hanky-panky. Frankly, if I thought he were telling the truth and there really is no real emotional involvement with this woman, I probably would be more hesitant to say he's cheating.....I'd probably be arguing that, while what he's doing is really harmful to his marriage, what he really needs is an intervention and lots of therapy...and probably prozac.

 

I'd think it's not really anything about the other woman as a real life person. I understand where such conclusions come from, but they aren't guaranteed and they don't feel intuitively right to me. I'd say it's more like a vicarious life which he lives at impunity through his make-believe character. Remember the part where they said the actions were pretended but the reactions were basically the same at the neuron level?

Then again, if there's any sexual gratification in such a vicarious life, it generally falls under Matthew 5:28. And if it's coveting someone as a spouse the way you would covet an efficient slave in the olden time or a worker or son or daughter or warrior or well... whatever it is that isn't sexual but makes the person desirable - in casu as a spouse, then I'm a bit at a loss, to be honest. Can't really arrive at a sharp conclusion.

 

I don't think it's too complicated. Imaginary really means "unreal, non-true", so it's all inside his head. I.e: it's not cheating, since anyone can have fancies about anyone and that's okay.

I just wouldn't advertise it or would have to cut it short if it offended the real deal. Virtual is nice and all, but screw it when the real thing is available.