It was bound to happen (Robbery for medical care)

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Tbh idk.

 

I'm way too cute for the equation of free medical, room, and board vs. rape to make this an option for me.

 

What's the solution?

 

Did you read the, well I wont call them lies, slightly exaggerated comments that the teller was saying to the 911 operator?
he was threatening her & had threatened to shoot her?
That doesn't jive with the rest of the article. I think she blowed it WAY out of proportion.
This is only about 30 miles from me. See it's not us old brothers you gotta watch out for, it's them old cracka's!!

 

I agree rg58 - there's nothing in the rest of the article that he suggested he was acting violently. He didn't even have a gun, so I kinda doubt he threatened to shoot her. Then again, I imagine if you're a bank teller and someone comes in and hands you a robbery note, you're pretty freakin stressed out...

 

Is the lack of medical care a problem in your country as well, HB?

 

He might want to be careful if he tries that after december 1st. Thats when HB650 takes effect, section 14 of which allows concealed carry in financial institutions. If he decides to try it again, even with a fake gun, he might get shot.

 

I think he might have asked the teller to "exaggerate" in order to make sure he gets arrested. He doesn't need even a fake gun for that. In fact, his behavior was quite unthreatening - he gave them a note, apparently showing no sign he had a weapon, then sat out at some distance.

 

Thats true the shaman, however with the teller telling the 911 operator that he had threatened her, it put the police on a higher threat level & he may have gotten shot.
I don't normally have any sympathy for criminals but in this case that would have been a shame

 

There have been a lot of exaggerations about the type of care a person who cannot pay will receive in an emergency room. An emergency room is required to provide care when a patient is suffering from "a condition manifesting itself by acute symptoms of sufficient severity (including severe pain) such that the absence of immediate medical attention could reasonably be expected to result in placing the individual's health [or the health of an unborn child] in serious jeopardy, serious impairment to bodily functions, or serious dysfunction of bodily organs." This gives ER's a lot of wiggle room to deny services to patients like this man. Even if an ER did opt to provide treatment, it would only be obligated to keep him until his condition was "stabilized." Since none of his conditions were life threatening, they would have been well within their rights to give him some naproxen and send him on his way. Back surgery, foot surgery, physical therapy, or even removing the growth (assuming it was not malignant) are all well beyond the scope of what an ER would be required by law to provide.

 

So people incarcerated with no means to make money to pay for health insurance should not get any health care? What is that called? The great leap backwards?

 

Hell, some don't think even regular citizens should get health care!

Right. And also no education. Or as Ragsua calls it, "A race to the bottom."

 

I think people complain about it in every country, but it's hard for me to compare.

 

Incarceration denies, among other things, one's ability to receive specialized medical care not offered in prison. Thus, any condition that is developed (anything from bad teeth to potentially terminal conditions like cancer) would effectively be due to the prisoner not having access to medical facilities. This means sentence should either included that as part of the punishment (which is both arbitrary and would make it harsher than it is now) or any such damages should be blamed on whoever operates the prisons - with that "whoever" having to pay for it if something happens.

The problem imo isn't that prisoners have decent medical care (though for statistical purposes I would like to know how much it costs and how it compares to what everyone else is paying), the problem is that a lot of honest people don't.

 

Providing people with adequate care would take away the incentive. While the rest of the world seems to understand this, some Americans remain clueless. Even some crappy third world countries TRY to take care of those in need. That people have to go to prison to attempt to get basic care doesn't say much for this country. It's a disgrace to humanity.

 

I work for a health insurance company. Off course, every now and then I get a complaint that the system isn't optimal. And then I think: "Oohhhh, but it can be much, much worse."

And I always think of Lewis Black when health insurance in America is the topic.

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