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Locker room access for sports reporters (more "equality" idiocy)

Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by chevalier, Feb 8, 2005.

  1. dmc

    dmc Speak softly and carry a big briefcase Staff Member Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!)

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    If we're done debating the relative merits of reporters and locker rooms, let's open a new thread on feminism in general, as there are too many issues that are going to go pretty far afield just responding to Toughluck's last post.
     
  2. Chandos the Red

    Chandos the Red This Wheel's on Fire

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    While I was in college I had a few classes with hard-core feminist profs, and had a look at their ideas up-close. The thing most striking is that it is a historical view of the treatment of women.

    Looking through the feminist lens one finds that women, for the most part, have been regarded as "property" throughout most of history, even fairly recently. Thirty to forty years ago this really started changing, and in most of the Western nations, this is really no longer the case. Yet, feminists still see themselves in a struggle for basic freedoms. And their struggle has now encompassed class warfare as well. One finds a relationship of sorts between feminism and Marxism. As a sometimes class warrior of sorts, I still consider myself a reluctant ally of feminism. My real concern is for the freedom, the pursuit of happiness, and the development of the individual -- regardless of class. This sometimes puts me in league with them, and other times, in opposition.

    This is one of those issues in which I am in opposition, and agree with Chev. Ultimately, the rigthts of males in the lockeroom trumps that of "any" reporter's pursuit of a "news story." And the gender factor is mutable because of the right to basic privacy, which we all would expect in day-to-day society as individuals. It is not only a matter of gender-to-gender respect, but individual respect that should be considered here.
     
  3. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

    Aldeth the Foppish Idiot Armed with My Mallet O' Thinking Veteran

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    I'm either getting more conservative, or Chev is starting to make a whole lot more sense lately. This is another example of another issue in which I agree with him. Since when does an "equal" right supercede a "basic" right. I think the self-evident right of privacy should include not having ones privates viewed by member of the opposite gender, or even of members of the same gender for that matter. I personally wouldn't be comfortable conducting an interview with any reporter when I was naked, regardless of whether that person was a man or a woman. That having been said, I'd be more uncomfortable if it was a woman who was interviewing me.
     
  4. chevalier

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    Aldeth, I'm going even further than you. We don't need to touch on privacy if we just rightly conclude that it's no equal right of locker room access if male reporters aren't allowed to see naked females in female locker rooms, while female reporters have such acess to male locker rooms. I find it hard to believe someone after a law school could issue such a verdict.
     
  5. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

    Aldeth the Foppish Idiot Armed with My Mallet O' Thinking Veteran

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    True enough Chev. Moreover, as a male, I would not be comfortable MYSELF interviewing a naked woman a woman's locker room. I'd imagine that most women would feel the same way about interviewing a naked man. I mean, most people feel there is something basically wrong in going into a locker room of someone of the opposite sex, just like they feel wrong about going into a restroom of someone of the opposite sex.
     
  6. chevalier

    chevalier Knight of Everfull Chalice ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran

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    Yeah, it's just some semi-political "progressive" agenda aimed against "superstitions" or some such. I think it's not the court's place to legislate a change in the mores. Not even the proper legislative has such authority.
     
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