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More religious madness

Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by Pac man, Sep 16, 2006.

  1. Blackthorne TA

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    Last I heard (or maybe I shoud say "paid attention to" :) ) the Pope apologized that his words caused the reaction they did, and predictably the opposition said it's not enough and (ironically) that the Pope is fomenting unrest with his speech.
     
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    Wait, weren't they demanding that he apologise before and now that he has they want more? *sigh* How do you deal with these people?
     
  3. Blackthorne TA

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    Well, he didn't exactly apologize for what he said, he apologized that it caused the reaction it did...
     
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    Well, the cardinals knew he was more conservative than JP II when they elected him, so it's partly their fault. The Muslim communities are overreacting, but I suppose that what with Iraq, Lebanon and all, they're almost like a cat on amphetamines on a hot tin plate - one prod and they go berserk.
    (Just in case you ask - regarding the cat, I haven't tried it, nor seen it)
     
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    it's fairly disturbing seeing how violently these people are reacting. it's like they were just waiting to pick a fight with the first person to say the wrong thing.
     
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    You know...seeing the reaction the Muslim protests get globally...I really wish they'd be more mature about this...and this coming from a Muslim is a bit...ehh. :p

    And I agree with Clixby's assessment of the situation...they're not protesting what the pope said...they are just PROTESTING... :rolleyes:
     
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    Earlier in this thread I noticed a lot of the "Please point out where Christianity/the Bible directs anyone to murder people of different faiths" argument as a means of suggesting that Islam is inferior to Christianity in this regard.

    The first problem with this is that the people putting forth the contention invoke sneaky qualifiers such as "...other faiths" and "modern Christians..." and such. This is a subterfuge to push aside the historical atrocities that Christians have commited. But to answer their challenges I will bring up the Holocaust(Catholicism of Hitler vs. the Jews), Jim Jones(a massive "suicide" bombing against themselves but would no doubt have been designed to take out others if they had been given time to think more on the scheme), David Koresh & the Branch Davidians(murdered children while commiting mass suicide and such), The "Right to life" clinic-bombing terrorists who often equate doctors and women seeking abortions to being of some "other faith"(i.e. satanism, feminism, atheism...all of which are typically & erroneously classified as "faiths" by fundies).

    And so on...

    It is fine to say that Middle-Eastern Muslims(esp. the radicals) are even more primitive than western Christians/Catholics and this anachronism contributes to more direct violence/atrocity today(comparable to what Catholics and Christians were doing a few hundred years ago).
    But as someone else pointed out; if you put ANY religious people, including Christians in the same situation as the Muslims feel they are in(living in an impoverished dessert wasteland with ever present war at their doorstep) you will see the same behavior.

    All religions are subject to reinterpretation given different circumstances/environments. The Jewish Yahweh went from being a violent, wrath-filled volcano-God of vengeance to an omnibenevolent deity with a change in the political climate.


    IMO the Pope and the radical Muslim leaders are all equally full of crap and display an equal lack of intellect and honesty.
     
  8. NOG (No Other Gods)

    NOG (No Other Gods) Going to church doesn't make you a Christian

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    RuneQuester, there's a big difference between a religion in which a few nutbags can flat out lie about what the holy text says and end up leading a 'holy war' and one where the holy text actually does say to kill people and commit holy wars.
     
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    Yeah, Buddhism's been given a real hard ti... oh, right. You're misrepresenting Islam. Okay, nevermind.
     
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    Why does humanity seem to need to believe in an all-powerfull being in control of everything and everyone? Religion has probably killed more people then politics and goverment, and yet people still believe that god protects them. Also note that if a religous believer is killed, he is called a marter (yes I said HE, females all seem to be second rate when it comes to religion. You don't get priestesses anymore.)
     
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