Most powerful class?

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You keep thinking that ...

 

Fighter/Mage...
Solaufein...

 

BG2 is not reality? Damn you've spoilt all of my hopes and dreams.

I think it would be nice if higher level assassins and fighters had good enough saving throws to negate a mages spells part of the time. I suppose you could dual a wizard slayer to a thief, that will get you better thac0, hit points, magic resistance and cumulative spell failure (makes note for my next bg2 game). A HLA that gives you immunity to timestop would be nice. Maybe level 30+ rogues should get it.

In BG2, my money would be on the mage unless he was a complete idiot, in "real life", could go either way.

 

Actually a mage has more than one option to find an Assassin who uses the cloak of non-detection: Planetar,Glitterdust,Contigencies or area of effect spells are more than enough.

The question could be how can the Assassin find the Mage?

Mage - clicks on the Staff of Cheese
Mage - Invisible
Assassin - Detects Illusions
...after some time...
Assassin - Illusion dispelled
Assassin - attacks Mage
Mage - clicks on the Staff of Cheese
Mage - Invisible
Assassin - Grrr!
Assassin - Detects Illusions ...




Even if the Assassin has the chance to get away from the Mage during a 1v1 combat and set some traps,it would be too difficult to bypass the Mage's protections and kill him.
And a class x-Mage has an even easier way to become immune to traps (shield of Reflection ).

Of course everything depends on how experienced are the players who control the two characters.But IMO a (high level) Arcane spell-caster will always have an advantage over the other classes.

 

Silvershield, you keep pimping rogues, and then ask if anybody has soloed an Assassin... why not try it yourself?

There is no doubt in my mind that an Assassin is a powerful character, but the most powerful is probably one of the arcane casters. Unmodded, I'd vote for a Sorcerer. If you'll allow multiclasses, the best is a FMT or a FMC, depending on your tactics.

 

Actually, any high-level rogue would probably have UAI. Casting True Seeing from a scroll would rend the Staff of the Magi (and any other illusionary protection) useless.

EDIT: Thief, I meant thief (silly 2e names).

 

Hehe don't have a lot of time these days Klorox my man This week I've been a lil sick and been at home but I've still been going out quite a lot atm I'm just finishing off my nice IWDII party but I'll probably give it a go soon, but I don't really like soloing that much because you become so powerful so quickly ...

As for YOU, 'the truth', I'm sure the assassin (being the class where it's hard to be an idiot) would pick the perfect time to strike. Ok so let's say both the mage and the assassin are high levels, and your fancy pants mage has protections galore. They're GOING to run out sooner or later and the little rogue will be waiting and then he'll strike. With his x7 multiplier and his deadly poison, I DOUBT the mage will last long.

Yeah OKKKK if they were in a one on one fight and they were just dropped into a room together the mage would probably win if they were high level, but that's not what I'm saying. But both classes are smart, so they should have contingency plans for such situations, but if we're just talking about regular D&D life, where the mage is unaware, he would be toast.

 

Hehe, but you don't seem to understand that the Mage,only with the Staff of the Magi, can become completely invulnerable for an Assassin.
Even if the Assassin has some scrolls of True Sight or uses his Detects Illusions, he will never have the time to hit the Mage.

A simple "click" on his staff is all what the Mage needs

 

Hehe ahhh you silly boy, you may think the mage is smart, although as soon as the assassin has detected your pathetic mage, he will be on top of him before your paltry wizard becomes aware!

CHECK ..... MATE

 

As soon as he is spotted, the Mage would use the Staff of Magi to become invisible and Boots of Speed to relocate. The Assassin wouldn't know where he is before he dispels the invisibility (and so wouldn't be able to immediately attack) and by the time he sees the Mage, his target would disappear.

Additionally, there is no reason why the Mage couldn't also be wearing the cloak. This would render the scrolls of True Sight useless.

Before I move on from this ridiculous argument, I'd like to pose one last question: if they Mage was using the Staff, then how would the Assassin know where to look? How do you even know the approximate location of someone if you've never seen them?