Official EURO2004 Thread

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Looks like Germany will be going home soon. 1-2 to Czech Republic and 3-0 to Holland.

They should've had two penalties that the referee missed but waddyagonnado?

(I don't really care about how the EC goes anymore.)

Two bad only that two of my three favourite teams are gone, Italy and Germany will be going home while Sweden will probably lose in the semi-final against Portugal.

Portugal
----------Portugal
England
-----------------Portugal
Sweden
----------Sweden
Holland
-----------------------Czech Republic
Greece
----------France
France
-----------------Czech Republic
Denmark
----------Czech Republic
Czech Republic


However, if England beats Portugal:

Portugal
----------England
England
-----------------Sweden
Sweden
----------Sweden
Holland
-----------------------Czech Republic/Sweden. Very hard to guess.
Greece
----------France
France
-----------------Czech Republic
Denmark
----------Czech Republic
Czech Republic

 

There was just one penalty that the referee missed but since the germans were unable to win the substitutes of Czech Republic, they don't have the right to complain. I wonder if even the best players of these german team (Ballack, Schweinsteiger and Schneider) could have a place in the german team of 1990 or 1996.

 

Don't worry about that, sweden won't reach the semi's. Holland will knock them out in the quarters.

 

If we beat Portugal in Quarters (not gonna be easy). I don't wanna meet Sweden in semi's. They are our bogey team . We can beat Holland np. We have the game to beat the players they got.
We have a good team though and have scored the most goals in the tournament so far. I think we can beat anybody.

 

So can we, it's just who has the most luck and the form of the day.

Morsmordre, i'd like to remind you that England only managed to beat Holland once over the last 30 years or so. Perhaps our style of play doesn't fit you as much as you'd like to believe.

Holland is always pretty succesfull against British opponents, so i'd like Holland to play against england much rather then Portugal. Should we meet, holland could hurt England pretty bad, like they have done quite a few times over the past few decades.

[ June 23, 2004, 23:06: Message edited by: Pac man ]

 

I beg to differ.
Sure, luck and form is important, but to say that this is the only difference - even with teams as even as this - is to oversimplify and fall victim of a cliché.

 

I don't agree here. If France 'didn't have lady luck on it's side, it would have lost against england. Being sucesfull in football is depending 40% on luck, and 60% on skills.

If not, then how do you explain Germany's three worldtitles ? You can be as good as the gods, if you don't have at least a little luck, you'll never win a trophy.

Example this year: Real Madrid. I mean... these guys had all the skills required to blow any team away on any given night, but they lacked a little luck, and in the end they were left emptyhanded.

 

@ Pac Man:

LOL!

Funny . Made my day that!

We beat Holland np. Portugal are my worry . Tricky team and full of divers.

 

Good, as long as you guys keep believing that, we got you right where we want you to be.

But just for fun... why don't you open a historybook, and look for the results over the last three decades. Then tell me if you're still laughing.

 

@Pac man
My point was that it's not just about who has the most luck and the best form, which is what you wrote.

It's about creating teamwork and a good atmosphere. It's about having the most skilled players. These things all work together. A team with the most skilled players, the best teamwork etc can still beat a team that has a bit more luck.

Talking about clichés, how about this one: A good team earns good luck.

 

Stupid Germans, cant even beat the Czech reserves. I dont envy the Danes though, the Czechs look *good*.

We will have huge problems with Holland, a little insider information for the dutch here: Our right side is bad, it has been really bad. Robbens is going to have a field day. Also, our left back is suspended and he have been one of our best players, Edman in Heerenven. The first choice to replace him is injured and the other two people we have who can play there are mediocre players in the Swedish league.

Sweden have a good central line with Isaksson-Mellberg-Jakobsson-Linderoth-Ljungberg-Larsson-Ibrahimovic. All the other positions are a bit shaky. Well, our right wing isnt shaky per se, but it is uncertain who will play, probably Jonsson who was good against Denmark.

Enjoy being favorites Holland, we enjoy striking from the back.

 

lol Pac Man, I'm just winding you up mate.
Nobody in the group stages can be taken for granted. Nevermind the knock-out stages!

Our defence looks a 'little' bit too shaky for my liking. But we are looking pretty good going forward. Gotta admit that one.

The same can be said for a lot of the teams in the quarters though.

Should be some good games. Looking forward to it.

BTW: You seen what ref we got? We got the guy who reffed Russia VS Spain! Only gave out 10 yellows and a red . We need a strong ref in that game. Otherwise he will be swayed by the crowd. . Shame we cant clone Collina!

 

Sweden-Holland is going to be an open game with fifty-fifty chances for both sides. Both teams have some of the best strikers in europe, so i expect some heated moments in front of both goalkeepers.

If Holland won't make it, Sweden would be my first choice to root for anyway, since i've seen lots of their players in action here in Holland. Zlatan is still with Ajax, Larsson played for my favorite team Feyenoord, and is still a very respected personality, and then there's that guy who played for Heerenveen, and is currently on Aston Villa's payrole (can't remember his name though).

 

Joacqin wrote:

Ummm... are you sure that's the right expression?

 

Olof Mellberg?

[Edit: loooooooool @ Earl Grey ]

 

You mean Marcus Allback?

 

Pac Man, it is Allbäck you are thinking of, rather dull but very consistent. Edman also plays for Heerenven.

Earl Grey: I was looking for a way to say "slå ur underläge" in English. However, I am quite sure that Svensson and Allbäck has a thing going.

 

Sweden will crush Holland

 

Well, if they do, they better win the whole damn thing.

 

Sorry to break it to you swedish but no way sweden goes to the semis. Sure they played a great first game, but they needed the brilliant/lucky Zlatan goal and a very questionable third game to advance. Now I'm not saying Holland didn't have any luck but they played very strong against the Czechs and the Latvians.

3-0 for holland

Finals: Chechz versus Dutch, and it will be payback time.

BTW

Thank you Czechs, oh thank you very much, Baros rules. We'll see you in the finals.

BTW2

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