POLL: Is Bush a Moron?

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Is this it Z-Layrex:

Americans aren't fools then, so next election we figure that Bush is loosing big time?

We should give the Americans the benefit of doubt, and say that choosing Bush was the biggest political blunder, a democratic population has made in a long time, and thats it. A choice that most likely ruin the stability of the world(Since he is a moron his actions must be (wrong/bad, right?). We hold no grundge to a population who elected the man responsible for messing up the world. Only if they elect him again, or?

[ August 17, 2002, 19:48: Message edited by: Nobleman ]

 

Ok, on the next American election. Anyone who votes for Bush is officially a fool.

 

I'm a fool, and I won't vote for him. Mind, I am in the UK.

 

Nobleman, while I agree with much of what you have said, I scored higher on my SATs in my SOPHOMORE YEAR (i.e. I was 15 at the time and I got a 1230) than he did when he was 18 (1180). His mental skills have nothing to do with his acceptance and subsequent acheivements at Yale. He was a frickin' party boy, for crying out loud! BTW, NORMAL (i.e. a no-connections) person who would apply to Yale with a 1180 would have their application tarred and feathered. Stop parading him as an academic genius!

 

Z-Layrex,

It all depends on who's running against him.

"Who's the more foolish? The fool or the one who follows him?" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

 

Well, since I'm not a European, I won't vote. Wouldn't want to skew the results Out of interest's sake, what are the results so far? Since I'm not voting, I can't see them

Heard an interesting little tidbit from a speech GW gave to a graduating class from Yale (I think it was Yale, but could be wrong). I'm paraphrasing from memory, but it went something like this: "...and to all the 'C' students here today, take heart: you too could be President."

Honestly, I don't think he's a 'moron', and I believe a lot of the quips you read here and there on the net were actually said by Dan Quail.

 

I don't know if the fact that someone gets elected automatically makes him (because it just never is a her in the US) intelligent, let alone appropriate for the work. That's the problem with democracy, people don't know a lot about politics, and are bound to vote for the one who simply makes a good impression, hardly ever looking beyond that and on the actual politics. After all you did elect Reagan...

That's the reason why you elect a person and not a party... it's about that person, and there is just no way for the public to tell whether that person will do the job well or not. So what people base their jugement on is something a bit more simple... Almost all analysts agreed that Al Gore's problem was not his politics.. he had been the vice president, that usually means a huge advantage in elections.. it was the fact that he was considered dull and uninteresting, while Bush has a certain charm, that, just to add to the flavor comes out well through the tv.

 

Bush rules a movie-destroying - socialist-hating(that would be me) - overweight - dumb(of a test with one hundred involved only 16 knew how many stars there where on the flag - ps. it is 50) - country that thinks that all the other countrys i mini-USA...

it is still some people that is not like that in america though... i feel sad for them... not the one on the 11 sep...

[EDIT] - i am from sweden just as you know

[ August 18, 2002, 02:37: Message edited by: Cog Primius ]

 

Wow I'm american and I don't think all other countries are mini-usa's. (Except for Canada )

 

So, Nobleman, I'm intrigued to know why *you* think GWB is "an excellent president". Did you root for him before he was elected too, or are you just impressed with his recent decisive handling of middle eastern affairs?

Personally, he strikes me as several sandwiches short of a picnic, but that's mainly because he was prone to malapropisms during his election speeches, and I suppose the stress could have made him trip over his tongue. And anyway, I don't think that intelligence is as essential to a national leader as good judgement (wisdom) and ethics. Clinton had intelligence and knowledge in spades but was lacking in the latter areas, and look how his presidency turned out.

My political leanings are mostly "republican", but I dislike the Shrub- before the election, mainly because of his record on capital punishment, and after the election, mainly because I find some aspects of the post-9/11 response excessive and trigger-happy. On the other hand, I don't think Bush is corrupt, which is a lot more than you can say for the French president and prime minister, or the Canadian prime minister. Bush really is as hard-right as he presented himself in the election, and shows every intention of fulfilling his campaign promises - whether the American people like it or not. And that kind of honesty is not a bad thing. At least people get what they vote for. "Be careful what you wish for... for you will surely get it!"

I'm intrigued by the German who posted above that no German leader would be so foolish as to try to take over the world. Do you think Hitler was a fool, or do you mean that modern Germans would know better?

 

Actually Frog Canada has a teeny weeny bit more land than the USA but not much.

Cog primus, are you saying that 250 MILLION people are all fat and lazy. OF COURSE! THAT'S why it's the most prosperous nation to date because they're fat and lazy! That's how they pulled themselves out of a 10 year deppresion to form the largest army in the world during the 40s in a matter of months! What a really stupid thing to say

 

I think the new George Michael video ("Shoot the dog") describes Bush in a perfect way .

 

Here is the music video Mollusken mentioned.
http://www.nordic.mtve.com/features/cms/index.asp?id=1001000000000317&page=1&type=1

Media player and realplayer. So go enjoy. I have to admit I laughed...

Sprite. You practically mentioned all the reasons why I think he is an excellent President. As far as I know the intelligent thinking is done by him AND the few hundreds of people also part of the excecutive political organ. So Actually a president needs the traits you mention even more than pure intelligence. And I do think his skill and education (perhaps not wits) is far beyond average.

[ August 18, 2002, 20:59: Message edited by: Nobleman ]

 

I love the fact that you are all so quick to judge!!! What if Al Gore became the president?!?!?! I think you guys need to perfect YOUR government heads before you start questioning mine.

Oh yeah...Why the hell does England still have a queen?!?!? I didn't think England was a monarchy any more!

[ August 18, 2002, 21:12: Message edited by: Kitrax ]

 

Bush maybe a moron, but that doesn't mean anything. Most people are having difficulty in understanding the reasons behind America's involvement in Iraq. No, it's not an obsession that is genetically inherited. Let's see what we have: 64% of world's oil comes form the middle-east. Most of it comes from Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Saudi Arabia alone produces 12% of all the oil that is used around the world everyday. A report by a US agency has "appeared" in the press a couple of weeks ago, saying the Saudis hate US. While the Saudi government is in good terms with US, the Saudi people don't like the Americans at all. Now that the Saudi king is sick and that the power structure is about to change, an anti-US prince is about to claim the throne. That is quite inconvenient for US since the new king must and will bow to the pressure from the bottom. You really didn't think that US was after world peace or anything like that, right? Agriculture and energy are the dominant forces in the world. You control them you rule the world. US is the number 1 in agriculture and has the power and technology to set the prices. To control energy, US needs other means. Iraq is the perfect solution... In 1991 US and other countries who fought for the "world peace" kicks the Iraqi army's ass. So after 11 years we have an Iraqi army that lost 60% of his power and is being considered "extremely dangerous" for the region. US plays big and wins big (mostly). That has nothing to do with the president. Someone claimed that saying Bush is a moron is the same thing as saying for the americans since they elected him. Well, I ask you one thing since you seem to think that the American president embodies all of American people. Are all the americans liars , cheat on their wives and like to have interns be involved in some "patriotic" extracurricular activities? You know who I'm talking about. Probably the best American President ever, Clinton... Bush maybe a moron but the American system, in general, is almost perfect to the point where even a moronic president can't do much to harm it....

 

I say: "Shoot the Dog"

He was once in Bled though...

 

Personally, I think the most intellgent (and wise ) decision GW has made since being elected is naming Colin Powell as Secretary of State.

Kitrax: Some of us Canadians *do* have problems with our Prime Minister (Mr. Cretin). But as corrupt and inept a leader as he is, does anyone outside of Canada even care? Probably not. we're just not on the world stage the way the U.S. is.

 

She "doesn't have any political power," silly. Just a sh*tload of moolah.

 

This topic has been an interesting read. For the record, I am not voting for Bush next election (I didn't vote for him this past election either, but I'm in Florida, so who knows if my vote actually got counted). Not that it matters anyway, the electoral college is the enitity that truly votes the President into office. It just so happens that they *usually* vote along the same patterns as the popular vote.