POLL: Thoughts about cannabis?

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It IS possible, but you have to smoke 1 1/2 times your own weight in weed, but that is just impossible. So, theorically, it's possible, realistically, not a chance in hell.

Agreed, but appearantly some develop some sort of "mental addiction". I had a buddy of mine who went into rehab for his "weed addiction". I wasn't sure if I had to had to roll my eyes or encourage his decision.

True, true. I've been toking for six years, and I'm no worst. MJ doesen't kill. But dying high? That sounds great! Imagine the scene - a blunt as weapon of the crime, and the MJ plants being the first suspects.

 

Maybe buying less MJ would lower your bills...

And I know a guy who got addicted to marijuana... I am skeptical, just because it isn't like opiates or pyschostimulants in that it is physically addictive, but I guess he did have a mental addiction ("I think I need it...").

 

A bit misleading here. Marijuana has the same effect on your lungs that cigarettes have (inhaled burned organic compounds are not good for you). Driving under the influence of marijuana is dangerous -- it may not be quite as bad as alcohol, but it still impairs driving skills (I believe nearly 38,000 accidents were attributed to marijuana influence a few years ago).

It was quite common for many years to add a kick to low potency majijuana -- in the form of PCP. This is quite dangerous and can be deadly.

 

Absolutely... I think I already linked it here, but I read somewhere that smoking one joint lowers your reaction time by 43%, and two lowers it by 61%, which is hugely significant.

 

@ T2

Two clarifications for my...um, clarification.

First off - Marijuana has a similar effect on your lungs, yes, in the sense that in both cases you are breathing in smoke, which our bodies aren't designed to do. But the modern cigarette has so many additives, carcinogens and added chemicals to drive down production costs, increase addictive potency and preserve the tobacco that smoking a cigarette is indeed many times more harmful to the human body than smoking a joint. Aside from added THC, marijuana is more or less untouched when it gets to the user. If we were talking about fresh-grown pipe tobacco, then I would agree with you.

Second, driving under the influence is dangerous, true. But I'm not talking about accidental deaths related to marijuana use, I'm talking strictly abouts deaths as a direct result of the marijuana use itself. Those simply don't happen - freak accidents and undiagnosed medical conditions excluded, of course.

 

I'd be very curious to see some real studies on the results of MJ versus cigarette smoking regarding lung disease. I would not be surprised if cigarettes were worse, as DR points out. Does anyone have some real numbers?

 

Buy? F*** that, I *EDIT* used to grow my own stock. I've stopped that.

One word: vapourization.

[ June 01, 2006, 01:10: Message edited by: Disciple of The Watch ]

 

uh, DotW? It's the vaporization of those organic compounds that INCREASES their toxicity, either by releasing or creating new compounds in combustion, or by transforming something that had been too large to pass into the body by respiration into a form where it can now enter. It's vaporization that makes tobacco harmful.

Any difference between the effects of pot on the lungs and the effects of tobacco is due to the compounds (including any additives) within the substances themselves, not the physiochemical means by which those compounds are inhaled.

 

CtR:

While using MJ regularly does appear to cause an increase in certain types of cancer - like cancer of the bladder - and also causes reduced fertility, it does not appear that MJ leads to an increased risk of lung cancer like cigarettes does - From WebMD:

 

Lung cancer is not the only issue with inhaling smoke (of any kind), also from WebMD:

The way people smoke MJ makes the person even more susceptable to emphysema (take a deep breath and hold it... hold it...). The retention of the smoke particulates for an extended period make them more likely to be absorbed onto the tissue of the lungs and can lead to emphysema.

That can get quite expensive, too. It's called a raid and leads to significant jail time in the US (growers are automatically considered distributers). The DEA is authorized to confiscate your home, car, boat, ... basically anything they consider was used in the trafficing of drugs. Oh, yes, if your growing this at your parents home the DEA can confiscate THEIR home if they do not testify against you (i.e., they would be considered accomplices in your crime).

[ May 31, 2006, 15:38: Message edited by: T2Bruno ]

 

Oh yeah - if you grow pot, there's a whole bunch of stuff you can be charged with. In the U.S., here's what you're looking at:

1. Possession (obviously - the good news is it's only a misdemeanor)
2. Production of a controlled substance (felony)
3. Producing a drug also carries a mandatory charge of possession with the intent to distribute (felony)
4. Possession of drug paraphenalia (sp?) (misdemeanor)

So that's a minimum of two felonies and two misdemeanors. The two felonies on a first offense (although I don't know if they'd consider them both 1st offenses - maybe because they occurred simultaneously) carry prison terms of 1-5 years each, which you may not be allowed to serve concurrently.

 

And its free to grow? Besides what the other two posted, even if you aren't caught, doesn't it cost money for seeds, fertilizer, etc?

 

I don't think you have to fertilize weed. Of the very limited number of people I have known who have attempted to grow MJ, they just buy some sun lamps, so the only thing it costs you is some extra electricity and of course you have to water it. As for seeds, well, there are usually seeds in any purchase of MJ you make, so you'd only have to buy it once. After that, the plant itself will produce more than enough seeds.

 

Unless Desciple is growing a TON of weed (for which I would be impressed), you seriously don't need to spend very much. No one thinks of growing a tomato plant in the backyard as a back-breaking expense, and it's more or less the same here.

Fertilizer isn't necessary unless you're growing and harvesting at an accellerated rate. All you need is a few seeds, a 2-10 gallon flowerpot, half-decent soil and a light source, and you're good to go.

 

Well, I did some careful thinking on the topic, and I've decided to quit smoking MJ. I don't know why it strikes me now, or why, but I've decided to get rid of the bad habit. For those interested in why, see my post in RBP.

[ June 01, 2006, 01:51: Message edited by: Disciple of The Watch ]

 

Actually, I don't think I could afford to smoke marijuana. I struggle to make ends meet as it is. I know I definitely couldn't afford to smoke tobacco.

 

Wasn't this topic dead and buried a long time ago ?

 

DotW, I applaud your strength. Best of luck to you.

 

From what I've heard, there's some heavy sweating and trouble sleeping coming down the road. But it's all about willpower. I hope it goes well.

 

Bah. He will find it's easier to quit then one assumes.

Feeling hot and cold all at once, restless, for a few nights and that's that for the most part. One has to get used to a constantly clear mind. An unfamiliar sensation after years of fog.

Definitely not that difficult - and rarely will the old times be missed, believe.