Random Music Babbling Post #4

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Helloween died for me, when Hansen left them and I put the last spike on their coffin, when they kicked out Kiske and replaced him with Deris (I can't stand his voice). What I can't understand with their new album is which is the target audience. Ok, they are artists, they want to experiment, but also they want to sell. Who is going to buy this except hardcore fans and collectors? When Metallica or Scorpions changed their music, they had a target audience, where they were aiming, now the only Helloween's target group, that I can think, is the kindergarten.

 

I like Deris' voice - Rabbit Don't Come Easy and The Dark Ride are my two favorite Helloween albums. Gambling With the Devil has some decent songs, but these covers of their older stuff sounds... unlistenable to me.

 

Hah! My favorite metal encyclopedia site held a "Best album of all time", and the FINAL is pitting Master of Puppets against RUST IN PEACE!

I am rooting for my champion Megadeth. Megadeth F****** rules!

 

HAHA!!! Megadeth's ALMIGHTY Rust in Peace has DEFEATED the OVERRATED Master of Puppets! Bwhahaha! Take that, Metallica -- you suck!

 

Yay!

 

To commerate the CRUSHING victory of my champion MEGADETH, the CD player in my room contains Killing is My Buisness, So Far So Good So What!, Peace Sells, and of course, the ALMIGHTY Rust In Peace... and it's set to continued play. Enough said. Master of Puppets is overrated -- and so is Metallica -- and MEGADETH is the better band, PERIOD.

ION, I was over at a friend's house yesterday, and the hugeass 125 CD changer stumbled upon some D.R.I. Not bad stuff at all.

 

I just listened to Anvil - Metal on Metal. Really good album.

 

Metal on metal it's the only way, to hell with tomorrow, let's live for today... if memory serves.

ION, sampled some KMFDM... I immensely enjoy the track Wrath.

 

Just got Dark Tranquillity's new album on vinyl!

Too bad the album isn't one of their best

 

Anyone like Donovan?

 

Saber - I recently picked-up a few of his CDs. Some of his music sounds very dated though...I had heard that Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones had worked on Donovan's "Hurdy Gurdy Man" sessions and that was a part of the tale of how Led Zep had originally formed, so I was curious about the tracks. Some of it is very good, but as I commented some of it is a bit too dated. I also like "Sunshine Superman" - Great song, and the CD is pretty good as well.

 

Does anyone here know some good (slow-beat) lounge music? I heard Buddha bar was good, but I haven't heard anything from them. I'm ordering this album (next two videos are from this) within the next few days. Perhaps someone can point me to some other cool albums?

 

I was going to go to bed about an hour ago, but I was listening to Ghost Brigade's Isolation Songs, and I was so mesmerized that I couldn't go to sleep! If you like Katatonia, Novembre, or any modern death-doom bands (that employ clean vocals, like November's Doom, Paradise Lost, etc), you should enjoy it.

 

Doomdeath, meh.

I'm listening to Sielwolf, awesome stuff. I got f***** up on stuff that allows me to focus completely on one thing, and I listened to the entire Nachtstrom album. Amazing stuff. Cold, mechanized, barren, yet incredibly deep and addicting.

This deserves a mention too -- AWESOME!

 

A friend of mine introduced me to Strapping Young Lad. Kind of weird, but it's industrial-tingled metal, so it's all good. Devin Townsend also has a pretty good vocal. Along with the ALMIGHTY Dark Angel's Gene Hoglan, this is interesting stuff.

 

Down is freaking awesome. I am listening to Nola, and I dig it. Pantera/Superjoint Ritual this is NOT, and that's fine, because it's F'N heavy. To quote their own song... Hail the Leaf!

Skinny Puppy is F'N awesome, too. The more Industrial I listen to, the more I like it. Industrial is very different from metal, but I have found Sielwolf, Skrew, G.G.F.H, and now Skinny Puppy to be every bit as good as some of the finest extreme metal I listened to. Industrial also reflects my state of mind... cold, stark, barren.

 

Evidently Down are in the progress of recording their fourth album. Oh boy oh boy!

 

Sometimes you can find some very interesting things in youtube.

 

^ Some of those are spot on. Some of them are pretty stupid, like the one with Slayer's Chemical Warfare and the Megadeth songs that supposedly sound so much like it. So after someone's written a one note riff on the open E string, nobody else is allowed to have a one note riff on the open E string without being a ripoff, never mind that the rhythm pattern is different? Sleepwalker is in a different time signature too, for F's sake.

Oh, and a galloping one note rhythm like on Sabbath's Heaven and Hell? Even at the time it was considered "tried and true" and clichéd. It's kind of lame to suggest Flight of Icarus is a ripoff of Heaven and Hell. Why Flight of Icarus, anyway? Why not one of the hundred other gallop songs Maiden have done?

The Metallica-Megadeth ones are typically cases of Mustaine having written the riffs while in Metallica and later using them in Megadeth. (That is, if you believe what Mustaine says, of course.) Crown of Thorns was actually co-written with Diamond Head members, so sharing the riff is probably OK with them.

There are some other interesting (and more accurate) "similarities" out there that could have been included. Check out Exodus' Impaler. The bridge features a riff from Trapped Under Ice by Metallica. The story there is that Kirk Hammett wrote the riff while in Exodus, but took it with him to use in Metallica. Exodus released Impaler in the 2000's, but the song existed in demo form in the 80's. Hammett has a writing credit in Impaler.

 

I agree with you, some are rip-offs, some are very common themes, some are riffs that someone wrote for his previous band and used it in the new one. After all there is a very common saying in discussions like this, there are only seven notes.

There are 27 (iirc) videos like these in youtube, check them if you have time.